Chuck D Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 The following question(s) are in regards to IPSC not USPSA rules. Does a revolver have to fit inside the IPSC box to be legal for IPSC Production Division? If it does, can the cylinder exceed the height limits of the box? What I'd like to know is , can my S&W 627, 8 shot 38/357 revolver be used in IPSC Production Division. Thank you in advance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hi Chuck, IPSC has never used "the box" for Production Division (only for Standard and Modified Divisions), so all revolvers with a barrel length of 127mm (5") or less meet the criteria of PD, but of course you should check the approved gun list to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hi Vince ! That's GREAT news. Now I can use my 627 at home in the U.S. and when I skip across the border to Canada. It's all good !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Chuck, how come that's good news ? I don't see your 627 listed on the approved gun list, so unless I am missing something you cannot use your S&W 627 in IPSC PD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Vince, i believe you will enlight me : I always thought Production was a "pistol only" division, as there is a revolver division apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Julien, That is what I thought as well, but when I checked the approved gun list under S&W for this case, I saw revolvers listed. E.g. my own S&W 686 is listed there, so apparently you can compete with revolvers in IPSC PD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Hi guys, No, Production Division is not just a pistol division, and it was never intended to be so. As you know, Revolver Standard Division limits the number of shots fired to 6 before a reload, and this was done so that we could (hopefully) attract the vast majority of revolvers which already exist (i.e. 6 rounders) to participate in IPSC competition. However if you want to shoot your 8 round revolver to capacity without penalty, you're more than welcome to shoot in Production Division, provided you observe the same maximum barrel length of 127mm (5"). OTOH, if you want to shoot a revolver with porting, you can shoot in Modified Division, and if you want to shoot a scoped revolver there's Open Division .Of course there's no way in the world we can please everybody, but we try to accommodate as many popular guns as possible. As far as the approved gun list is concerned, I guess we could be accused of taking the "lazy" way out by simply stating "(revolver models must be 5" models or less)", but I'll happily add the S&W 627 (and a few others too) because, well, I like to keep Chuck happy However while revolvers are more than welcome to shoot in Production Division, we didn't expect to see too many around the world doing so. Things are a little different in the USA & Canada, because they have to deal with a 10 round limit for pistols, so an 8 round revolver is not too disadvantaged with the round count, unlike shooting in the rest of the world, where +15 round pistols are the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Vince, Thanks for the clarification. I was indeed confused because I saw the line about the barrel length AND specific models listed. Well, a happy ending for Chuck after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yea !!!!!!! Thanks Vince..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Thumbs up for our Rule Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Chuck, Just a follow-up: your beloved S&W627 (and a few other models) have been added to the IPSC approved gun list so, if any of those Canucks try giving you a hard time, just tell 'em Uncle Vinny gave you a pink ticket and instructions to whup their you-know-whats Have a great match. Wear a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 13, 2003 Author Share Posted December 13, 2003 Thank you VERY much. Love them IPSC Canada guys/gals...even if they do give me grief. Hanging out with Murray Gardner doesn't help my cause any..... Wonder if those guys remember what a revolver looks like? To be serious now....thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Thumbs up to Vince! Very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Ah, my newly acquired S&W 29 is on the list too ! Great, now I can stick to PD and have fun with it on one of our upcoming matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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