dan jones Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hello. Sat (021409) tried my new Saiga in a match for the first time. The gun did really well except.....One stage had this star thing with 5- round, steel plates on it. I don't know what it is called, but i think it is common. Anyway, I had "bargain pack" Remington #8. The plates were maybe 20 yards or less. I shot 3 of the plates off, but then could not get any more to fall. I was hitting the plates because I could see them move backward slightly when I fired. Another guy with a Saiga hit his last plate 3 times before it fell. I suppose the Saiga has an open choke and I was shooting bargain loads. Is this a common problem and what load is reccomended? Thanks Dan Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianATL Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Poly-choke is your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Either more choke or more powder The Russian chokes are fairly good (the ".5" one is all you need), or you can shoot some 3 3/4 dram 7's for those long shots Polychoke, as mentioned, does a drop-in external adjustable choke for the Saiga, or you can have your barrel fitted for screw-in chokes. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 +1 for PolyChoke... the standard unchoked barrel is a gas pipe and sprays pellets all over Creation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Choke it down and the plates will fall down! Tighter pattern means more energy "on" the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan jones Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 OK I am convinced. I need a choke. I understand the Polychoke just screws on and is $100. I don't understand about the Russian chokes. Do they just screw on also? I think if a choke is installed, I will not need or want to adjust it if it works. Are the Russian chokes cheaper? And where do I get them? Thanks alot Dan Jones atlasshrugged1999@yahoo.com Either more choke or more powder The Russian chokes are fairly good (the ".5" one is all you need), or you can shoot some 3 3/4 dram 7's for those long shots Polychoke, as mentioned, does a drop-in external adjustable choke for the Saiga, or you can have your barrel fitted for screw-in chokes. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRumore Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Here. http://www.saigastock.com/index.php?main_p...ex&cPath=25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan jones Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 I ordered the poly-Choke from Gilberts guns and it arrived amazingly fast. When I scew it on the barrel it leaves about 1/4" of the barrel thread exposed. I really don't like this. No one mentioned the fact that it would take a machine shop to install this thing. The barrel would have to be shortened into the existing threads because the threaded portion of the poly choke is just too short. What is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan jones Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Update. Gilbert's Guns wanted to charge me 15% to return the Poly-choke that did not fit. "store policy" or some such BS. I called Poly-Choke and they were nice and explained that the thread lengths vary on the Saiga's and if I send mine in they will exchange it for one that fits better. So, Poly-choke (the company), came through (at least they say they will) and Gilberts Guns were very unhelpful. Had to vent. Always amazed at the AH's that wind up working in the Gun business. Dan Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTOSHootr Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I had the same problem with the fit of the PolyChoke. I sent them my whole barreled receiver and they installed it perfectly. My threads weren't short, just goofed up from the factory. On the other hand, in using the PolyChoke, I found that it just wasn't effective in giving me the constriction needed to bring down plates, regardless of ammo choice. I don't think it was doing anything to tighten the pattern out of my gun. Maybe the are gun-to-gun bore difference. I have since tried the Russian screw on chokes and found them much tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I have to agree with GTO...Screw in chokes work better. I had my Saiga choked for Remington chokes (no, it does not make the SG choke, like all other Remingtons) and if you go out and pattern the shot pattern on or at distance you can see the difference. The Poly choke was not very consistant out of my Saiga so that is why I went to the Rem-chokes. I only wish I could have gone to the Benelli chokes...since I have a lot of Benelli's. Of course I had Robert Wright do the work (RandRRacingonline.com) and with the 2 comps and all the other goodies I now love the Saiga. A stock Saiga kicked more than my Benelli:-) RLTW, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_Sorah Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What can you do about a S-12 with out any chokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Have a choke job done to it...see above...About $150 and well worth it! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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