Rob Boudrie Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 This has got to be the most bizarre gun failure I've encountered yet... I was working at the Area 7 yesterday when a shooters S&W 625 locked up after firing two rounds and could not be opened. After the shooter and RO running the stage tried the usual things, I was asked to evacuate the unit to an empty pit and render assistance. Fortunately, rule 5.7.5 states "that under no circumstances is a competitor permitted to leave a course of fire in possession of a loaded handgun", so I served as an RO to take the gun to the other pit. (Nice wording by the rules committee) Finally, after giving up on the normal steps, and confirming there was no round stuck between the cylinder and forcing code, I removed the side plate (yes, I did this correctly) and discovered that this was, in fact, the only way to open the cylinder and remove the 4 live rounds from the cylinder. The interior portion of the cylinder release had broken off where it pushes on the doohicke that pushes the pin in the middle of the cylinder to unlock it. In addition to making it impossible to unlock the cylinder, the part fell down into the remainder of the action locking it up so the hammer could not be cocked and the cylinder not turned. Fortunately, I was also able to give the shooter the name of a USPSA member who works in service at S&W and who will not give her grief about having the side plate removed before returning the gun for repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 (edited) If it was Jackie's gun, tell her to e mail me. I have the part. She was working tomorrow also IIRC. I have had a bolt break one time on my carry revolver. It happens but it is rare. With mine is was a 2.5" 66-1 shooting full magnum loads. Regards, Edited June 7, 2008 by Round_Gun_Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 It was hers. She also needs a strain screw since we lost that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Sounds like MIM has another UN satisfied customer...... can't imagine why that piece would break. Edited June 8, 2008 by bountyhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 My girlfriend's dad a had a TR22 that locked up after the first 14 rounds. Turned out that they'd installed the wrong hand at the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Sounds like MIM has another UN satisfied customer...... can't imagine why that piece would break. I have worked on the gun before. Not a MIM gun. The bolt I had break was not MIM either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 It was hers. She also needs a strain screw since we lost that . I have spares also. Parts kit is pretty complete. I sent her an e mail. Hope she had her spare with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Sounds like MIM has another UN satisfied customer...... can't imagine why that piece would break. I have worked on the gun before. Not a MIM gun. The bolt I had break was not MIM either. Interesting and surprising. Still an odd part to have break. Any theories as to why aside from the obvious (junk part)? maybe excess end shake lets the cylinder whack the thing on recoil? Edited June 8, 2008 by bountyhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Sounds like MIM has another UN satisfied customer...... can't imagine why that piece would break. I have worked on the gun before. Not a MIM gun. The bolt I had break was not MIM either. Interesting and surprising. Still an odd part to have break. Any theories as to why aside from the obvious (junk part)? maybe excess end shake lets the cylinder whack the thing on recoil? I have not seen this one yet but when mine went, you could see the crystals in the part and it was just time to go. It is a 1972 manufacture 66-1 and the 625 we are talking about is same era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Yup, I could see the crystaline structure as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Sometims flawed parts slip thru. It's not like they're x-rayed and certified. The MIM guns have been out a while, with the number or rounds IPSC/USPSA shooters put thru them any real shortcomings would be painfully obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPSCDRL Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 It was hers. She also needs a strain screw since we lost that . I have spares also. Parts kit is pretty complete. I sent her an e mail. Hope she had her spare with her. She did, and finished in fine shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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