steel1212 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 (edited) Well I'm wanting to get real gamey lol. I have a few questions that I couldn't find answers to. what are your weights on your SS .45 guns with the SS or Blued steel ones? Does the grip feel like a wide body with a SVI magwell, other than the obvious width differance? Edited November 18, 2007 by steel1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Mine weighs 42.5 oz. But the Caspian frames are a bit heavy as there is a lot of material under the grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Jay, is yours the steel version or the aluminum one? 42.5 won't make it in IDPA but if like you said if your caspian is heavier than my Springer it might work out. You did weigh it with a mag right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 No, I weighed it without the mag, gun ONLY Sorry, but I do believe the Springer has a lot more cut out under the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 (edited) No, I weighed it without the mag, gun ONLYSorry, but I do believe the Springer has a lot more cut out under the grip. Gotcha, isn't there a 43 oz weight limit with a mag or in USPSA is it with out? Steel or aluminum? Edited November 18, 2007 by steel1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I believe the ONLY restriction in USPSA is the box!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 (edited) http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRules.pdf page 76 43 oz WITH empty mag I'm pretty sure my gun comes in under 41oz as is with a CMC power 8. Anybody got weight differances between a blued steel flat SA magwell vs a aluminum svi vs a SS svi? Edited November 18, 2007 by steel1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 My Kimber SS in SS with the SVI aluminum mag well and MSH weighed in at 39.5 with a mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 My Kimber SS in SS with the SVI aluminum mag well and MSH weighed in at 39.5 with a mag. How do you like the durability of the aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) I have only had it on for 3 matches but it seems to be holding up very well. I will say that it is a little rough getting it on but once it is on it is rock solid. This is with the 47D mags I now have the extended ones from Wilson, I believe the 47DE? Edited November 19, 2007 by cooter79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I think the "DE" basepads are a MUST for the SV magwell!!! Otherwise it is gonna be difficult to seat the mag all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Guess I'll order the aluminum one and see how that goes. If it makes 41oz with mag...man the IDPA guys are gonna hate me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Guess I'll order the aluminum one and see how that goes. If it makes 41oz with mag...man the IDPA guys are gonna hate me lol. NOW that sounds like fun, careful for the FTDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I already have a target on my back...I shoot a eagle in ESP lol. Most of the guys I shoot with in IDPA are cool with the eagle but I really think there will be some that will question that SVI magwell. If it makes weight and fits the box I don't see what they can say. The IDPA box and SSD box is the same exact size right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No, I weighed it without the mag, gun ONLYSorry, but I do believe the Springer has a lot more cut out under the grip. Uh oh...what are you going to do to get below the 43oz limit? You know, if Jim found out about this he might want to tattle on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) No, I weighed it without the mag, gun ONLYSorry, but I do believe the Springer has a lot more cut out under the grip. Uh oh...what are you going to do to get below the 43oz limit? You know, if Jim found out about this he might want to tattle on you I think USPSA is only "fit in the box", NOT weight Edited to Add: He has the pink T-Shirt, he won't tell Edited November 19, 2007 by zhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 The weight for uspsa is 43 oz. I tried using the SVI with the 47D'S while waiting for the DE to arrive and had several occasions were I did not seat the mag completely and that really kills yours rythim. That and it hurts slamming your hand into the mag well over and over!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No, I weighed it without the mag, gun ONLYSorry, but I do believe the Springer has a lot more cut out under the grip. Uh oh...what are you going to do to get below the 43oz limit? You know, if Jim found out about this he might want to tattle on you I think USPSA is only "fit in the box", NOT weight Edited to Add: He has the pink T-Shirt, he won't tell Nope...it's 43oz with an empty mag and the box. I bought a Techwell magwell and the alumagrips Bob gets made to match them (hollowed out on the inside). He said the combination was still lighter than a steel S&A magwell. Jim said he's not afraid of a little pink and showed everyone on our squad yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I see a lot of people using wilsons with the DE pads. I have a pile of CMC power mags will they work well or would I have to change mags as well....that would get real expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I have used several different mags....the key is a deeper (read thicker) basepad and - with some - you have to modify the basepad around the front area to allow the mag to seat. Without some material removal the pad may hit the front of the magwell and prevent it's seating properly/fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo radley Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I see a lot of people using wilsons with the DE pads. I have a pile of CMC power mags will they work well or would I have to change mags as well....that would get real expensive! I have an aluminum SVI magwell -- my experience is the same as the rest here: you'll be sorry if you don't use a magazine with an extended basepad. I have some CMC Power 8's, and some Kimber TacPro's. While the CMC's seem to work fine when practicing, in a match I've been burned by not seating the magazine firmly enough. The TacPro's with the extended basepad (like the Wilson DE's) work fine, though you have to trim the pad to fit in the box. BTW, the magwell is nice, but it's not the huge difference I'd thought it would be, and not that much faster in my limited SS experience than a blended S&A. A good reload is a good reload. A reload that's slightly "off" will still be good. But a sloppy reload still "sticks" in a single-stack, and even with the SVI you just can't throw 'em up there, the way you can with a double-stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'm looking at it a bit diffrent than most people. I'm more interested in the grip it would provide, simulating the SVI magwell on my STI. If I have to buy wilsons with the DE basepads to use it though I may look at the techwell if that might work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Steel - The mid-length Tachwell is fine. 47DE's and CMC magazines with CP Bullets extended pads work great. And they all clear so you don't hammer your hand. Joe milled a set of Gunner grips for me to use with the well and the fit and finish is outstanding. I haven't seen the SVI well (photos only) but I'd like to try it too. Innovation makes this sport what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Scout, where do I find these basepads for CMCs at? I like the techwell, don't like the idea of having no option but running their grips. I probably could send them my VZ but if I can get extended pads for the CMCs then I'll go with the SVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Brownells 169-500-001 Joe can have some grips (G10 like Gunners, aluminum, micarta) milled to work with the Techwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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