half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Does anyone here know how where to find .45 bigsticks and how to get the max cap. out of em? going crazy trying to find em and any other info as far as springs, followers etc.. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 give Grams engineering a call. I'm sure he can help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 SV Infinity has them listed so may be in stock. Its been a while since I noticed an update on their site. Site shows they hold 19 rds. http://www.sviguns.com/store/?indx=7 Checked Brownells and they do not carry .45 x 170 mm STI tubes or magazines. They do have both tubes and mags in stock for .40's Give Bevin Grams a call if you want to maximize the round count but be prepared for a long wait. (We are talking months.) He does excellent work therefore he stays busy. HTH Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 thanks yoshi and bill! I checked grams, speedshooter, dawson, brownells.... nada. that helps a lot. $127 shipped bare bones! I wasnt looking for the gold plated versions with mother of pearl basepads! lol! Man I dont know what to do here! It might be cheaper to just build a new 9mm top end ... its the finest .45 I ever shot, but It still has a little hop in my hand and I gotta figure I'll get hosed on the reload. not to mention the price of ammo. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Any suggestions? Don't waste any more money on a comped .45..... It will never be what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 Merlin, that was exactly what I was asking. If you read my post, I asked If I should just replace the whole upper w a 9mm. instead of tinkering w the .45 to make it shoot right and never be able to keep up w higher capacity guns. I'm going to buy or build a new open gun, but I still think I'll get the new upper in 9 to play for now. I would have to replace the whole upper right? I couldnt just change out barrels/comps and mags to run 9 major, could I? thanks for your help merlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 You need slide, barrel, ejector, firing pin and extractor at a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) I think it should be pretty easy to just change the barrel, small parts and slide and fit to the existing frame...and a bunch cheaper! Sell the top end and get some of it back... Edited January 31, 2007 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 So I should find a nice used upper and fit it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Get a Good gunsmith. Open guns are finicky creatures. 9mm more so that others. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiksaputok Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 You need slide, barrel, ejector, firing pin and extractor at a minimum. +1 YOU DONT WANT TO PAY FOR A USED UPPER THEN END UP WITH A PROBLEM IN:FITTING, ACCURACY. COSMETIC, DESIGN ETC. JUST BUY ALL THE NECESSARY PARTS AND SEND IT TO THE GUNSMITH AND BUILD IT ACCORDING TO YOUR SPECS.....AT LEAST YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANT STRAIGHT UP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 guess rob melhorn's getting another call... now I have 2 guns for him 2 work on... the aftec sheared the claw off on my limited gun I got from you 3 days after the link broke.. I feel like I bought a used ferrari! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiksaputok Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 guess rob melhorn's getting another call... now I have 2 guns for him 2 work on... the aftec sheared the claw off on my limited gun I got from you 3 days after the link broke.. I feel like I bought a used ferrari! i am not sure you may want to contact aftec dont know if they have warranty for their product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 lifetime warranty as long as the actual extractor isnt modified. I should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 IIRC if you don't do any modifications to the aftec extractor they should honor the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiksaputok Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 IIRC if you don't do any modifications to the aftec extractor they should honor the warranty. it is drop in no mods done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I reviewed what is posted so far and didn't see if your .45 barrel is ramped or not. To shoot 9 Major you will need to go with a ramped barrel. The only change to the frame, other than cutting the ramp if necessary, will be an ejector change. And switching to a new top end will require fitting the slide to the frame and fitting the new comp to the slide and fitting the new barrel to the slide and then frame. If a newbie to all this type of fitting, a 9 Major gun may not be the best project for you. Too much pressure involved requiring well fit parts for most shade tree gunsmiths. See if there is a market for your .45 racer and then see if the extra dollars for a well built 9 major is still in the budget. Better yet, keep the .45 as is for a backup gun. I would keep shooting the .45 and start saving up for the 9 major. Maybe not what you want to hear, but just one shooter's point of view. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Cut that chamber a few thous. longer and feed it .460 Rowland ammo and the comp will work just dandy.....but you will still be down 7-9 rounds to a 38/9mm shooter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Cut that chamber a few thous. longer and feed it .460 Rowland ammo and the comp will work just dandy.....but you will still be down 7-9 rounds to a 38/9mm shooter... Now this is something I need to think about. I've got two .45 Para race guns in the safe that I will otherwise never use. How hot is the .460 Rowland? Would I need a ramped barrel? This may be my new bowling pin gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Now this is something I need to think about. I've got two .45 Para race guns in the safe that I will otherwise never use. How hot is the .460 Rowland? Would I need a ramped barrel?This may be my new bowling pin gun. How about a 290+ pf... 200 gr @ 1450+ or 180 @ 1550+.....No ramp needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 How about a 290+ pf... 200 gr @ 1450+ or 180 @ 1550+.....No ramp needed. Oh, yes. Now where did I put that Brownell's catalog. Thanks Merlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 I reviewed what is posted so far and didn't see if your .45 barrel is ramped or not. To shoot 9 Major you will need to go with a ramped barrel.barrel has nowlin ramp cut.. The only change to the frame, other than cutting the ramp if necessary, will be an ejector change. And switching to a new top end will require fitting the slide to the frame and fitting the new comp to the slide and fitting the new barrel to the slide and then frame. Instead of changing the whole top end, I can just change out the barrel/comp and ejector? If a newbie to all this type of fitting, a 9 Major gun may not be the best project for you. Too much pressure involved requiring well fit parts for most shade tree gunsmiths. I'm not the greatest gunsmith in the world, but I know a few... See if there is a market for your .45 racer and then see if the extra dollars for a well built 9 major is still in the budget. Better yet, keep the .45 as is for a backup gun. I would keep shooting the .45 and start saving up for the 9 major. I dont mind shooting it the way it is for now, as I have a caspian widebody .38 super gun, and another .38 super single stack steel gun. I thought the .45 would be a great addition to my arsenal, but after shooting a 9 open gun I just feel like I'm gonna get hosed. it sure is fun though, so I'll probably keep it as a backup and just get a few bigsticks for it to be half way competitive. Maybe not what you want to hear, but just one shooter's point of view. it is what I want to hear and thanks for the honesty. This is exactly what I need to hear.. thanks all you guys. much appreciated! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Dontcha just wish you'd waited to buy that bedell that is in the classifieds right now? That gun makes me wanna vomit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dontcha just wish you'd waited to buy that bedell that is in the classifieds right now? That gun makes me wanna vomit... Uh... yeah I actually really enjoy shooting it, but I imagine I would really really like that bedell a whole lot more. oh well, just an excuse to get another toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hummmmm I have been playing with the idea of making an Open gun in .45 for bowling pin shooting off of an STI platform. For now I think I will just stick with my Kimber single stack for now. lol Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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