16" Vs 18"

[chp5]

I'll bet he knew his zeroes and practiced a lot. In fact, he was probably practicing while the rest of us argue about 2 inches of barrel on the internet.

Can I get an "Amen" to that . . .

[uscbigdawg]

For 18" barrels, I'm for a rifle length gas system. You've got the real estate, so why not?

If I was building a limited rifle, definitely on a 20" and sights like Erik Warren, et. al. run (the globe ones so I can play with the reticles to make the most out of distance and close up shooting).

Rich

[Steve Moneypenny]

Which uppers have a "mid length gas system" this rifle stuff is getting sooo complicated .. i just like my 14.5" upper with a flash hider and EOtech..... but that's not a gaming gun

[uscbigdawg]

Steve,

It's just in the barrel, so any upper can get it. Cavalry Arms, CMMG and Sabre Defence (see all of them being match sponsors) have mid-length gas system barrels.

Rich

[Paule]

Perfect practice will always beat perfect equipment. But better equipment can make a bigger difference for the average shooter than it might for a top shooter.

My favorite analogy is the golf story about Lee Trevino. Before he became bigtime, he used to hustle for pocket money on the public courses in Dallas. One of his favorite games was to bet an unsuspecting newcomer that he could beat him using only a Dr Pepper bottle for a club (back in the day when glass bottles were the norm). Now he could certainly play a lot better with a good set of clubs, but he was a wizard with a pop bottle.

On a good day, I would wager that Tiger could beat at least half the other PGA pros with only a seven iron.

[KentG]

Boys, Boys, Boys.......have you not learned yet.....it is not the size that matters, but how you use it.....

But i do like my 18 incher.....i could be a porn star

What?? No jokes about cold water in the toilet???

ANWAY my new JP15 showed up yesterday,, its beautifull and I cant say its much havier than the 16" one I had. They blended in the F2 comp I sent to the point I cant see the joint at a casual inspection. Off to the range on sat to do the barrel break-in and sight in the Aimpoint. Life is good.

Now I need to get used to it and practice. Im also anxious to feel how much recoil its got with the LMOS and gas block compared to the Colt carbine I have been shooting the last couple years.

Perfect practice will always beat perfect equipment. But better equipment can make a bigger difference for the average shooter than it might for a top shooter.

My favorite analogy is the golf story about Lee Trevino. Before he became bigtime, he used to hustle for pocket money on the public courses in Dallas. One of his favorite games was to bet an unsuspecting newcomer that he could beat him using only a Dr Pepper bottle for a club (back in the day when glass bottles were the norm). Now he could certainly play a lot better with a good set of clubs, but he was a wizard with a pop bottle.

On a good day, I would wager that Tiger could beat at least half the other PGA pros with only a seven iron.

I agree 100% but Id still like to at least make sure I have good equipment but Im under no illusion that it will make me better. Only the level of god given reflexes/vision/skills determine how well I shoot plus practicing helps be the best you can with the basic abilities. Now if I would only practice enough to actually be the best I could be. hmmm,, sounds like some kind of army ad.

[rmfield]

For matches with targets beyond 250 yards, I like to shoot a 20" barrel because it gives me good velocity and flat trajectory with the heavier bullets (77 gr SMKs). I like the heavier bullets for less wind drift. For shorter ranges, I often shoot a 16" gun with 52 or 55 grain bullets. IMHO, If you don't plan to shoot heavy bullets, then the barrel length is just a matter of personal preference. What is important is that you can keep your groups under 1 moa or so, know your zeros, and find (and practice) what shooting positions work for you.