bonedaddy Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 There's been a lot of good discussion about setting up an open shotgun. I've been scanning the threads hoping to find some mention of the best set-up for sights on a limited shotgun. I've got an older 1100 with 28" modified, fixed choke VR barrel. Is the stock gold bead good for 3 gun matches or would I be better off getting a deer barrel or ghost ring with rifle sights? I seem to do OK with the plain bead, but I might as well know if there is a better way. Who would be kind enough to point out the pros and cons of bead vs. rifle type sights? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icer Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 B-Diddy--- In the long run I think you will appreciate the advantages of the ghost ring sight for 3-gun shooting. The ability to aim precisely comes in handy on slug stages with hard cover and no-shoots. The ghost rings when used properly will be just as fast as a bead on steel and static clay targets. The only time I might prefer a bead, or no sight at all, would be moving targets and aerial clays. Then all my attention is on the moving target and everything else is just a distraction. Go with a barrel in the 18" to 22" range. They tend to be quick enough for those stages with lots of prone/kneeling positions and tight ports. IMHO anything longer seems unwieldy and tends to overswing on quick transitions. I'm no 1100 expert as I am solidly in the Benelli camp, but I might think about a set of Trac-lok ghost ring sights of the type found on Scattergun Technologies/Wilson shotguns. They seem simple and bulletproof. Hopefully some 1100 shooters will chime in with suggestions. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 I agree w/ icer. A Ghost-ring rear sight and post front sight is a good setup. My 1187 has a williams rear sight w/ the screw-in aperture removed and a CPM fiber-optic front sight. While I don't care for the fiber-optic and a pistol, I really like it on the shotgun. Other good sights include MMCs and the aformentioned Scattergun Tech trak-lok (sic?). You can shoot a bead on steel w/ no handicap but the bead tends to fall short when shooting slugs. I absolutely hate the ghost-ring or "deer" slug sights when shooting flying clay - too much to look at. Cut that barrel! Cut it to 22 inches and get interchangeable chokes. Since you can only have 8 shots, why have a barrel that is sticking out 6-7 inches past the mag tube, hitting everything in sight? There tends to be some tight shots in shotgun stages. There were several spots in the 3-gun Natls where a long gun was very unwiedly and I understand that there were even tighter shots in Kyle's match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedaddy Posted July 22, 2001 Author Share Posted July 22, 2001 Thanks for the insight Icer, the 28" tube does indeed seem unwieldy. I rarely ever shoot aerial targets or clays, the ghost ring with a post front sounds about right. I can always put the stock barrel back on if I want to go bird hunting or something. I have shot a freind's Benelli a few times, nice gun! I could go for one of those too. But then, I need a few parts to finish my FAL, and a bull barrel for a Mauser I'm building and to make matters worse, I shot Ron Ankeny's 6" STI yesterday. I've shot hardballers and long slides before, but this thing is light as a feather, cycles fast and shoots flat. I can see me wearing one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedaddy Posted July 22, 2001 Author Share Posted July 22, 2001 Hey Kelly! We were posting at the same time, so I missed your reply the first time. I had wondered about whacking the barrel. Would I spend more on tools to do the choke job correctly than I would spend on a new barrel? I have also read some about backboring and reaming to reduce recoil. This sounds like a fun project, but I should know what I want for an end result before scrubbing up for surgery. I appreciate your advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted July 22, 2001 Share Posted July 22, 2001 I am merely a driver, not a mechanic! I don't do too much of my own gunsmithing (that's why God invented Accuracy Speaks). A new barrel is certainly the easiest way to go. It is not too difficult to find Remington barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedaddy Posted July 22, 2001 Author Share Posted July 22, 2001 Yeah, I think I'll buy one out of Brownells, chokes and all. Discretion IS the better part of home gunsmithing:) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 I prefer beads for shooting steel and clay, and they do OK on not-too-difficult slug shots. But the more difficult slug shots are trouble and you are SOL if the point of impact is off from point of aim. I got a 21" 1100 deer barrel with rifle sights, switched the front to a fiber optic and the rear to an Ashley Express, but the sights are holding me back a bit on steel. I've got to try a ghost ring. Cabelas had great prices on Remington barrels. Make sure you don't get the slug-only rifled deer barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 How do the twin beads on a Remington go with slugs? I always thought they gave quite a good sight picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted July 24, 2001 Share Posted July 24, 2001 I think it all comes down to personal preferences. I like the rifle sights as opposed to the ghost rings. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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