In The Box / Out Of The Box

[moverfive]

This has been said many times before in this thread - both directly and indirectly.

Many of these issues we are talking about are 'no brainers' when it comes to preventing them by writing clear and concise stage procedures. Many others are not known UNTIL the stage is actually built and somone actually shoots the stage (hopefully when the RO's shoot the match)......case and point in this thread, the clay pigeon. In these cases, these problems and their "cures" are not identified until everything is printed and done. In other words, this additional stage description will have to be covered via the verbal portion of the stage walk-thru and procedure declaration.

The key is to provide the most consistent stage descriptions (written and/or verbal) and then apply the rules and those procedures consistently. While a shooter may want to do something (and that something may be legal), but if they and everyone else is denied/offered the exact same thing......then the results for that stage are consistent and offer a level playing field for score.

And again - even if the application isn't consistent across the entire match (whether that is due to safety rules, the stage design, or whatever) as long as the rules are applied consistently on each individual stage, no one really has a legitimate complaint about the results of that stage and the ultimate match results.

But the bottom line to all of this - experienced stage designers and RO's rule the day.

[racerba]

The point is we need to agree that if the written stage description dosen't forbid it, then it's legal. There should be NO hassle over that issue.

Black and white ........ or it's RIGHT!

There's nothing to agree upon. There's no where in the rules that disallow it so the RO cannot tell you that you cannot stand on the box. It's cut and dry - no hassle. If the RO tells you that you cannot, then ask the RO to quote the relevant rule.