benos Posted September 20, 2001 Share Posted September 20, 2001 I got the post below in an email. The most fundamental "right" we have, as humans, not "countries" is to choose to be responsible for our own life (lives). This means having (not being denied) the means to protect ourselves at all times. be Closing the Cockpit Loophole by Captain Duane Shaw duaneshaw@compuserve.com September 19, 2001 Could four handguns have saved thousands of lives? The short answer is yes. Airplanes are controlled by pilots. Without pilots, airplanes are 150 ton 500mph guided petroleum missiles. We have just seen the potential of aircrafts used as assault weapons. Let me introduce myself. I am an airline Captain for the worlds second largest airline. I have been flying airplanes professionally for twenty one years. I have dealt with engine failures, aircraft system failures, aircraft navigation equipment failures, Air Traffic Control failures and airline management failures. Through it all, nothing has scared me more in aviation than the people I carry in the back of the plane. Why? Because I have had to deal with drug crazed and drunk passengers, air ragers, and people who are just scared. I have learned that all these people are unpredictable and dangerous. (just the opposite of law abiding gun owners). And now we have a new type of passenger. A diabolical warrior filled with more hate than ten Tim McVeighs. What about Air Marshals? Not the best idea. An Air Marshal in the back of the aircraft can be identified, distracted and overwhelmed, even if armed. The pilots however have a cockpit door to get through. And a kevlar cockpit door would be a formidable obstacle for anyone to breech. Also, there are over eight thousand flight segments per day in the U.S. The cost of putting an Air Marshall on each flight would be prohibitive. Especially when you have two highly qualified professionals in the nerve center (cockpit) of the airplane who can do the job. Is it dangerous for pilots to carry guns? No. Pilots are some of the most mentally, physically and psychologically tested people on earth. Additionally we are drug and alcohol tested all the time. We are highly educated, have a unique understanding of how mechanical things work, and have eye/hand coordination second to none. We are also required to undergo rigorous recurrent training and checkrides every nine months. (A great place for firearms requal.) There is no safer group of individuals to issue defensive firearms to. What about shooting in a pressurized cabin? Will the airplane blow up? No. Do not be fooled by movies showing an explosive decompression in the cabin after a gun is fired. The pressurized fuselage of an aircraft already has many holes in it for regulating pressurization and air flow. The aluminum alloy skin of the aircraft is a quarter inch thick and capable of taking direct hits from most handguns without fracture. Even the cabin windows are incredibly thick and strong and capable of taking hits without failure, especially if using a frangible bullet. Even if they did penetrate the fuselage, several additional small holes would not make any difference in the ability to maintain pressure. But let's not lose the forest for the trees here. Just remember the scenario that would require gunfire in an aircraft. It would be the last line of defense before turning the aircraft over to a terrorist for him to complete his mission - to kill hundreds or thousands of you. Fights between pilots in the cockpit? Does not happen. In twenty one years of professional flying with five different airlines, I have never been involved in an altercation with another pilot. I have never even heard of this happening. How many police get into arguments, draw their weapons and kill each other while on duty? Still do not want guns on airplanes eh? In any given week of flying I will carry one to five armed individuals on my aircraft. They are IRS agents, Postal Inspectors, DEA agents, FBI agents, Secret Service agents, state and local law enforcement, and virtually anyone else authorized by the government to carry a weapon. There is no restriction on the size or type of gun they carry. All I am asking is to not be defenseless. Give me a fighting chance to save my passengers, crew, aircraft and people on the ground from a psycho or terrorist. Lets close this cockpit loophole. I am hearing over and over on TV and the radio from elected officials how we are going to have to give up freedom and liberties for additional security provided by our government. This is not acceptable. I have a right to defend my family from harm at home. Why can't I have the same right in my aircraft at work? If we adopt a bunker mentality and start voluntarily giving up freedom, then we have already lost. Let me defend my aircraft and cockpit with the best tools available. So, would four handguns have saved thousands of people from knife wielding terrorists? Please respond to this letter, and if you agree, please start making demands on your elected officials. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Related Reading Airplanes & Guns: Myths and Reality from Angel Shamaya H.R. 2896 -- Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 Support this bill. Contact your Representatives. H.R. 2896 Will Arm Pilots ? GOA Urges Congress to Pass Bill Arming Pilots ? Rep. Paul says his bill will save lives if enacted Free Gun Training for Commercial Pilots --Front Sight Steps Up to the Plate Urgent - Eliminate terror on commercial aircraft: "Airline Safety and Anti-terrorism Act of 2001" from Gary S. Marbut/MSSA/TOS, President, Montana Shooting Sports Association U.S. Code Regarding Carrying of Weapons on Planes --KeepAndBearArms.com An Examination of Airport Security from Michael Z. Williamson The F.A.A. "Increased Security Measures" Are Insultingly Fraudulent ? Press Release from the F.A.A. ? And a KeepAndBearArms.com Response, Plus Action Steps The Airplane and Air Flight Laws of Physics from Angel Shamaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted September 21, 2001 Share Posted September 21, 2001 Damn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 21, 2001 Share Posted September 21, 2001 What's really stunning is that pilots can't do this already. My father was a commercial pilot for years and always shook his head at the stupidity of the metal detectors. Everyone in the industry has known for years that the security procedures are bogus. I flew out of Phoenix last Thursday night, and not 12 hours after the new security procedures were in place they were being ignored by the troglodytes running the security checkpoint. What a joke!! 6000 people dead and nothing had changed - they didn't even care. As an aside, aircraft hijackings were the impetus behind creating the Glaser safety slug. So, the tools already exist. Let's use them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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