blackdragon Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 We have just submitted our new 1911 A2's it is expensive! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calhunter Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 What is the reasoning behind the magazine disconnect requirement? Someone must have had some kind of reason for it, but I wouldn't want to own a gun with one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe it is based on this section of the law. Bob or one of the others that deal with DOJ in California might know better. 2005 Dangerous Weapons Control Law 12087 thru 12088.9 Firearms Safety Devices -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ARTICLE 4.5. FIREARMS SAFETY DEVICES 12087. This article shall be known and may be cited as the "Aroner-Scott-Hayden Firearms Safety Act of 1999." 12087.5. The Legislature makes the following findings: (a) In the years 1987 to 1996, nearly 2,200 children in the United States under the age of 15 years died in unintentional shootings. In 1996 alone, 138 children were shot and killed unintentionally. Thus, more than 11 children every month, or one child every three days, were shot or killed unintentionally in firearms-related incidents. ( B ) The United States leads the industrialized world in the rates of children and youth lost to unintentional, firearms-related deaths. A 1997 study from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reveals that for unintentional firearm-related deaths for children under the age of 15, the rate in the United States was nine times higher than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. © While the number of unintentional deaths from firearms is an unacceptable toll on America's children, nearly eight times that number are treated in U.S. hospital emergency rooms each year for nonfatal unintentional gunshot wounds. (d) A study of unintentional firearm deaths among children in California found that unintentional gunshot wounds most often involve handguns. (e) A study in the December 1995 issue of the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine found that children as young as three years old are strong enough to fire most commercially available handguns. The study revealed that 25 percent of three to four year olds and 70 percent of five to six year olds had sufficient finger strength to fire 59 (92 percent) of the 64 commonly available handguns referenced in the study. (f) The Government Accounting Office (GAO), in its March 1991 study, "Accidental Shootings: Many Deaths and Injuries Caused by Firearms Could be Prevented," estimates that 31 percent of accidental deaths caused by firearms might be prevented by the addition of two safety devices: a child-resistant safety device that automatically engages and a device that indicates whether the gun is loaded. According to the study results, of the 107 unintentional firearms-related fatalities the GAO examined for the calendar years 1988 and 1989, 8 percent could have been prevented had the firearm been equipped with a child-resistant safety device. This 8 percent represents instances in which children under the age of six unintentionally shot and killed themselves or other persons. (g) Currently, firearms are the only products manufactured in the United Stated that are not subject to minimum safety standards. (h) A 1997 public opinion poll conducted by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago in conjunction with the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research found that 74 percent of Americans support safety regulation of the firearms industry. (i) Some currently available trigger locks and other similar devices are inadequate to prevent the accidental discharge of the firearms to which they are attached, or to prevent children from gaining access to the firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 State Senator Jack Scott of Pasadena has been involved in a lot of recent gun control bills. He was behind the handgun licensing, trigger lock, loaded chamber indicator, mag disconnect, and the list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 What is the reasoning behind the magazine disconnect requirement? Someone must have had some kind of reason for it, but I wouldn't want to own a gun with one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't try to make sense of it all. It is just one more step towards a full ban on handguns in CA. Shotguns and Rifles are next in line......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The offical reason is always about making them safer and reducing firearms related accidents. According to the Ca DOJ the cost per unit for converting the guns to a magazine disconnect shouldn't be more then a few dollars per unit at the retail level.....The truth is it is going to be very expensive on a 1911 style system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 once u pay the testing fee and u don't get approved, do u get ur fee back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The offical reason is always about making them safer and reducing firearms related accidents. According to the Ca DOJ the cost per unit for converting the guns to a magazine disconnect shouldn't be more then a few dollars per unit at the retail level.....The truth is it is going to be very expensive on a 1911 style system. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gotta love the CADOJ with their head up in the clouds... or are they up something else..... STOP ANAL-CRANIAL INVERSION IN SACRAMENTO!!! It's for the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calhunter Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 According to the Poll I started awhile back 61% of us had a gun before we were 18. No bullet holes in me or anything that I did not intend to put a hole in. I was taught how to handle a gun safely and what it, or my dad would do to me if I didn't. (The dad was actually the scarry part at the time) These are the same people that make manufactures put signs on lawnmowers telling you not to stick your hand under the mower when it is running! Well DUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 If you fail the test you don't get your money back, and you can't resubmit the same guns............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacblack Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 What CA is doing should be illegal. To me its just banning guns under the cover of "safty". They want to out right ban them but this way is easier and looks nicer. In a few more years all the legal gun owners will just be out of luck and only the bad guys will have them. Its too bad I have had a good job offer before but it was in CA and I had to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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