Nightforce VS Sightron VS other

[garlar4]

Ok Shooters.  I am Larry Garland.  I am one of the owners of an online sporting goods shop.  We recently passed up the Nightforce brand.  I am looking at selling my Nightforce scopes and move into a brand we are a dealer for.  one of the models i have is a ATACR, along with the NSX and so forth.  I know i am going to get a lot of opinions bur what i am looking for is facts.  What scopes on the market are comparable to the Nightforce ATACR?  I would like to stay with in the brands we have.   I was looking at the Sightron SV as an example.  Thank you for your input.

 

Larry Garland

 

 

[garlar4]

Hard to believe there is not one person who would chime in on this ha ha ha


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[uewpew]

14 hours ago, garlar4 said:

 What scopes on the market are comparable to the Nightforce ATACR?  I would like to stay with in the brands we have.   I was looking at the Sightron SV as an example.  Thank you for your input.

 

Larry Garland

 

 

What brands do you carry?  

[garlar4]

What brands do you carry?  

MANUFACTURER
Advanced Technology Intl
Aimpoint
Aimshot
Allen Cases
Armasight
ATN Corporation
Barska Optics
Birchwood Casey
Bog Pod
Browning
BSA
Burris
Bushnell
Butler Creek
Caldwell
Coghlans
Colt Competition
CVA
Dead Ringer
EOTech
ExtremeBeam
Firefield
FLIR
Hatsan
Hoppes
Ironsighter Co.
iScope
Konus Optical & Sports System
Kruger Optical
LaserLyte
Leapers Inc.
Leupold
Mako Group
McNett
Millett Sights
NcStar
Otis Technologies
ProMag
Pulsar
Redfield
Remington Accessories
Rossi
Savage Arms
Scopecoat
Seek Thermal
Sig Sauer
Sightmark
Sightron
SigTac
Simmons
Tactical Solutions
Tasco
Taurus
Thompson Center Accessories
Trijicon
Truglo
Viridian Green Lasers
Vortex
Walther
Weaver
Wheeler
Wildgame Innovations

And a ton more. Sorry for the long list


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[uewpew]

With that many glass brands, I'm confused on ur question. I'm no optic expert but I imagine one of them have a comparable repleacement.

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[rancher5]

I had a Sightron, sent it back; ones I really like are Nightforce NXS and Bench rest models for the price and Vortex Razor which I consider a high dollar scope, all beautiful scopes very dependable and last. NXS I've used hard for 18 years, We do a lot of +500 yards shooting, I do know a couple of shooting friends that have great Sightron scopes being they keep a zero,True MOA adjustments,Glass is clear and bright. Depends what your market is,supplying glass for AR'S tacticle,hunters or Bench rest LR shooters, high end - low end glass. Do believe you get what you pay for in Glass.

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[Got Juice?]

Having run some 3 gun with the following optics here is my .02

1. Strike Eagle. SFP 1-6 PASS.... terrible fisheye at 1x  Reticle is hard to focus without slightly blurring the reticle Terrible Tracking (failed box test) (my eyes are 20/20 x 20/15 so vision is not the issue)  FOV is pretty good, if blurry as heck. Heavy like a battleship   3.5/10

2. Vortex TCMQ  SFP 1-4 OK glass, cluttered reticle, not true 1x,  expensive for what it is and does, limited mag  Great Tracking   6.5/10

3. Nightforce NXS SFP 1-4  Finally.  Good glass without chromatic aberrations, CLEAR reticle, expensive, limited mag. GREAT TRACKIng!! barely gets a 7/10 because of cost.

3. Bushnell SMRS 1-6 FFP  Decent Glass.  Some chromatic issues at edges, not true 1x, more like 1.2x Decent mag (can even get it in 1-8) good tracking, smushy turret clicks, again, a little spendy for what you get.  DID NOT LIKE FFP!!!!  Reticle disappears in cqb stages!!!  FOV is a little narrow .  Heavy. 7.5/10

4. Sightron 1-7  SFP.  Finally. An alternative to Swarovski without donating a kidney!!  GREAT GLASS!!!  Really Great Glass!!!  No Chromatic or Aspherical distortions at all.  True 1x, CLEAR glass etched reticle!!  Red Dot in center does not flare like other reticles on ''torch'' mode.  Some may or may not like that.  Good turret clicks, i personally do not care for the non-tool less turret resets though. Great Tracking, Excellent field of view. Not as heavy as the Strike Eagle.  If you love the Swaro, but can't stomach the cost, this one is for you!!  9.5/10

5. Swarovski 1-6  Not much can be added.  14' (120 vs 106') Wider FOV than the Sightron, slightly better finish.  Glass is 2nd to Sightron in my opinion in terms of contrast.  But both are excellent. Picking one over the other is budget dependant.  Lighter in weight than the Sightron, tracking is Great, Turret Clicks are Great, Illumination is a little stronger than the Sightron, Great reticle, this is truly the benchmark of everything I have tried, and run to date.  If money is no object, look no further, Swarovski has your optic. 10/10

6. Bushnell AR SFP 1-4x  Solid Glass, Reticle is painted in, so it is way to thick for 3 gun over 125yds imho.  Clicks are smushy, tracking is not too bad.   Decent FOV, very light weight.  Coatings on glass are not premium (but then neither is the price of this piece)  Love the lightness!!! Really like it.  slight chromatic distortions at edges, but nothing major.  Other than being down in power, I would take this over the Strike Eagle in a heartbeat.  5.5/10

In the end I sold my Swaro to run the Sightron.  Mainly because of the reticle, and a preference to the glass in the Sightron.   Budget was another reason.  For a given level of high performance, is the Swaro 2.5 times better than the Sightron?    No it is not.  It is at best 10-15% better in my opinion.  And I can afford to equip 2 rifles with the Sightron, and still have money left over for more ammunition.

There are other solid choices out there, and as 3 gun gets bigger, competition will no doubt improve the breed.

Edited December 17, 2016 by Got Juice?

[Steve RA]

Which reticle in the Sightron ???

[Got Juice?]

15 hours ago, Steve RA said:

Which reticle in the Sightron ???

I am a MOA fan, but decided to try out Mils on this one.  While Mils is a little coarser in nature, for an AR, and limited power optic, I felt was best solution.

Of course, I also had to install my Trigger Tech trigger at the same time, and should be slapped... too many changes to the gun takes getting used to.  But now that my trigger memory has adjusted, I am spending more time being critical of the whole platform, and the scope.  It is very much to my liking.  Even though the Danish SF Spec Colt IUR is a little, heavy, double taps are confidence inspiring.

[Got Juice?]

Worst money I spend was on the Strike Eagle.  Nobody likes to waste money, or make a bad decision, but I fell into the marketing, lost sight of what the main use of the gun was, and seduced by low price.  6x for under 500.00.... wow... at least I only lost 100 bucks when i sold it, so the lesson was not too expensive.

I did look at Vortex's high end AR scope but what a heavy lump.  Glass and reticle were good, but you need a bowflex to drive the gun due to the weight.  But a fine optic other than that.

 

But overall, I am liking the SFP scopes.  FFP belongs on my precision rifles, and varminting rigs.  The reticle is just too darn small at 1x, and the horseshoe reticles that are lit to compensate for that are a little too flare-y for my liking.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Got Juice?

[JimmyBob]

What? This thread is about ATacR alternatives, that has nothing to do with 1-6 scopes.