ZackJones Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm back playing around with 9mm loads, this time for USPSA production division. I did some chrono runs yesterday using two Gen 3 Glock 34 pistols. Both with stock barrels. Loads tested where Blue Bullets 125g with 3.5g of E3 @ 1.130 and Blue Bullets 147g with 3.0g of E3 at the same 1.130 OAL. I usually run a little longer at 1.135 but found the shorter OAL works better when case gauging in the hundo case gauge. Ten rounds were fired over the chrono with each load and gun combo. I didn't do any kind of accuracy testing because I picked up a Gen 4 Glock 17 today and want to do testing with that gun as well. Mixed headstamp brass and mixture of CCI and winchester primers. G34 - Z (Mine) Blue 125g Avg Velocity - 1040.6 Std Dev - 20.2 Extreme Spread - 66 AVG PF 130 which is exactly where I want it. G34 - T (Son) Blue 125g Avg Velocity - 1059.9 Std Dev - 10.6 Extreme Spread - 36 Avg PF 132 (Not sure why his is running faster than mine) G34 - Z Blue 147 Avg Velocity - 919 Std Dev - 13.2 Extreme Spread - 45 Avg PF - 135 (I could possibly scale back on the powder but my hands can't tell the difference between a 130 PF and 135 PF so I'll leave it at 3.0g. G34 - T Blue 147 Avg Velocity 935.5 Std Dev - 10.9 Extreme Spread - 38 Avg PF 137 Hope this helps someone looking for e3 loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter190 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I tested some lucky13 147gr over 3.1gr E3 today and they were 135pf through a 5in m@p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I tested some lucky13 147gr over 3.1gr E3 today and they were 135pf through a 5in m@p Are you shooting their zombie killers or whatever they call them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter190 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I tested some lucky13 147gr over 3.1gr E3 today and they were 135pf through a 5in m@p Are you shooting their zombie killers or whatever they call them? Yes sir i am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerocket Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Thanks for posting. Gives me an idea of where to start with e3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 Thanks for posting. Gives me an idea of where to start with e3. Happy to help. Good luck with your loads. Let us know how things work out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflarick Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 How does E3 compare to Bullseye, Titegroup, 700x, Clays, Clay Dot, Red Dot in terms of smoke, soot, accuracy, cost? It just started appearing around here, but I've got plenty of Clay Dot, Red Dot, TG, and Bullseye; a little 700x. Normally run TG for 9, Clay Dot for 45, Bullseye in either. I'd like to narrow it down to one or two target powders for 9, 40, 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 When you're chroning are you using the same brand of case? I'm not real excited with the spread you're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 How does E3 compare to Bullseye, Titegroup, 700x, Clays, Clay Dot, Red Dot in terms of smoke, soot, accuracy, cost? It just started appearing around here, but I've got plenty of Clay Dot, Red Dot, TG, and Bullseye; a little 700x. Normally run TG for 9, Clay Dot for 45, Bullseye in either. I'd like to narrow it down to one or two target powders for 9, 40, 45. I can't say as I haven't used those powders, sorry. When you're chroning are you using the same brand of case? I'm not real excited with the spread you're getting. Nope. I never sort by headstamp. I just load and shoot what I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) How does E3 compare to Bullseye, Titegroup, 700x, Clays, Clay Dot, Red Dot in terms of smoke, soot, accuracy, cost? It just started appearing around here, but I've got plenty of Clay Dot, Red Dot, TG, and Bullseye; a little 700x. Normally run TG for 9, Clay Dot for 45, Bullseye in either. I'd like to narrow it down to one or two target powders for 9, 40, 45. I can't say as I haven't used those powders, sorry. When you're chroning are you using the same brand of case? I'm not real excited with the spread you're getting. Nope. I never sort by headstamp. I just load and shoot what I have. Variations in the inside dimensions of cases from brand to brand will give a wider extreme spread. To give yourself a truer test of a load stick with one manufacturer. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Edited July 16, 2016 by Ray_Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflarick Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but I separate the yellow from the nickel plated brass. The plating adds another variable, and cracks more quickly. There's a local store that has E3 on the shelf. I guess I'll grab a lb and give it a try. Edited July 16, 2016 by soflarick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but I separate the yellow from the nickel plated brass. The plating adds another variable, and cracks more quickly. There's a local store that has E3 on the shelf. I guess I'll grab a lb and give it a try. Let us know how it does. Does it smoke much? Leave crud in the gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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