kvfelton Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 OK, you convinced me to go the way of the reloader, but saving the money for the equipment is slow go, especially when I’m still buying factory ammo to shoot. I have been able to find S&B 9mm 115 gr. FMJ ammo for about $100 per thousand. This is good for practice, but I shot my first steel match last month and the results were less than impressive (granted a lot of that was me). While at the range last week, a fellow shooter let me try some Federal 147 gr. match ammo. I have always been wary of 147 gr. bullets in the 9mm from posts on other forums, but this stuff shot great! It was a lot better than the S&B, but it was 4 times as much! I have another steel match coming up this weekend and I wanted to ask you all if you know of any good factory match ammo that won’t break me…you know, the best bang for the buck ;o) Anyway, I’m still trying to save for my XL 650, but I also want some half way decent ammo for my monthly matches. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hard to beat CCI Blazer at @ $3.98 a box of 50, 115 grain, good quality ammo.... and more accurate than you might think (at least in my Glock... your results may vary!) - @ $80 per thousand. And 9mm once fired brass is so cheap you can always buy some later for loading purposes, when you get the 650 running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvfelton Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 $3.98 per box of CCI Blazers is impressive. The best I have found them locally is at Acadmy for between $6-7 (still not bad). On the web it's not much better. Where are you finding it? Also, aren't the CCI Blazers loaded a little hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 If your looking for a cheap 'hot' 9mm factory round you can't beat the Olympic 124gr Nato stuff. Goes 1250 ave out of my Glock 17. http://www.sportsmansguide.com has it for around $100/1000 plus shipping of course. HTH, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvfelton Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 Actually, the two key words here are affordable and accurate. I haven't tried Olympic, yet. Is it accurate? The S&B is OK, but the Federal Match grade gave me much better patterns, for a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 kvfelton, I know you won't like my answer, but I think you should stick with the S&B and accept the compromise. The 115gr is going to feel a little "snappier" than the 147gr - which I'm guessing is the "accuracy" difference that you're seeing. I really doubt that a lot of the accuracy difference is due to some dramatic manufacturing difference between S&B and Federal. S&B has always ran well for me. The S&B cases reload well, so if you save your brass you'll be ahead of the game with cases of known origin. You simply won't get better deal than the S&B at $5 a box. Stick with it. The grass isn't that much greener... E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 I find Blazer 9mm at Academy and Oshaman's here in the Dallas, TX area for under $4.00 a box, everyday price. And yes, Blazer 9mm is kinda "hot" compared to weaker 125 PF load. But its more than acceptable. And until you shoot some in YOUR gun, don't discount the accuracy of Blazer - its been my expereince that IPSC/IDPA does not require Bullseye accuracy - unless you are an amazing shooter, most of our accuracy problems are probably shooter induced, not ammo related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 wow, when Oshman's and Academy *sell* them for <$4, then you know they *buy* them at $2/box or less! I wanna know where! --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 shooter Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 You might also try the 147 grain Winchester white box ammo. It is very accurate in my Glock 17. I shoot it a lot in GSSF matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Federal american eagle is good stuff in the cheap aisle and the 147 is soft. Price per 1000 should be 120-ish, save the brass. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 I am buying Winchester 115 at Oshmans for 5.90 a box for match ammo. Shoot the Blazer for practice, about $4 a box at Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Sounds like what you seek is a cheap factory 147 because you tried a 147 load that was more accurate than cheap 115s in your gun. Why was it more accurate? Was it the feel of a 147 over a 115 perhaps? I can appreciate that; the heavier bullets seem to push more than snap upon recoil and that can lead to less flinch. You decide. As for cheap factory9mm 147s, I see 4 possible loads: 1) Federal Am. Eagle 147 2) UMC (Remington) Yellow Box 147 3) Win. white box 147 4) Russian Silver Bear (Note: see below!!) Now, the Russian stuff has a chrome-plated case. Under the chrome, there is a berdan primed STEEL case. Everybody knows the Russian steel cased ammo will wear out your gun lickity-split right?!?! Wrong. It's mild steel and about as soft (or softer) than some brass; it all depends on the alloy and heat treatment. Besides, chrome is far more hard than brass or steel yet no one seems worried about chromed brass cases so why the paranoia about steel?? Back in the day we shot and reloaded WWII surplus .45 steel cases all the time; no, our extractors did not break off every other shot - that was an old wives tale. But I digress. Anyway, buy one of the 1st three loads listed; the Russian stuff is loaded too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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