Foxbat Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I added a couple of modifications to the Case Pro that make it more user-friendly and less prone to damage. 1. I installed a microswitch on the case feeder tube, a few inches above the bushing. Wired it in series with both the sizer and the feeder motors. This prevents the machine from running when you either run out of cases, or also, if your feeder jams. Otherwise you just keep wearing out the feeder motor or clutch. 2. Overcurrent protection for the sizer motor. With some especially badly bulged cases the machine would sometimes stall, resulting in motor getting very, very hot. The typical operating current is about .25A, but the stall current reaches .9A. With the protection you can get very cheap and simple, or you can get fancier. The cheapest way involves putting a Poly Fuse or just a circuit breaker, rated .3A, in series with the motor. These, of course, have to be manually reset - either by turning the whole thing OFF, or by pressing the button. You can also get fancier, and use the self-resetting breaker - this is what I have at the moment. The beauty of this approach is that a case that makes the machine stall will eventually be pushed out, after 2 or 3 starts, so the system becomes self-clearing. If someone is curious, the self-resetting breaker is the Sager Electronics part number 2-6500-P10-0.3A. A bit pricey at $42, but worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What's the rpm of the motor from casepro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 At the gearbox output seems about 30rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DSQQSAE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I would think that would be more effective than a circuit breaker. Use a microswitch to reset the timer when it comes back to get another case. If it doesn't return in time, it gets shut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Very smart to install protection on all auto driven equipment. It prevents a LOT of issues. I am getting another Case pro this Saturday and will install a 3ph motor controlled by GS2. It protects itself but will addd the micro switch on the case feeder tube. THANKS for the idea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Are you serous about 3hp? Why so much? Or do you mean 1/3hp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 3 phase, not 3 horsepower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 My bad... reading too fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 3hp won't hurt but it is a waste of $$$ for this application. It is 1/4 hp 3 phase 240v GS2 VFD controlled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If you ever have a problem with a case pro rolling a case back into the machine it just sized (likely only if you have a ridged setup that operates smoothly). Post #6 here has the solution http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98302&hl=%2Bcase+%2Bpro#entry2119334. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I used the traditional mecahnical counter but that aluminum actuating arm bends easy. Micro switch at the end of the sizing stroke works a LOT better. Yes you need a digital counter and power supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Can someone take a pic of there single phase Data tag? Thanks Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Mine does not have it....I guess PW removes it before shipping for obvious reasons. The single phase motor that PW uses for the Case Pro auto drive is too small and it overheats. That is the only flaw I see with that system......it is too slow as well. That's why I like the bigger 3ph motor that you can run for hours and control speed as you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I mounted my counter to the post that the case feeder sits on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 At the gearbox output seems about 30rpm. @ 30 RPM it is a bit slow for me I like to run it 40 RPM It is a good balance for speed and reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Can someone take a pic of there single phase Data tag? Thanks Kevin I did some research and this is the motor on the PW auto drive. http://catalog.orientalmotor.com/item/ac-motors-gearmotors-/tors-induction-motors-k-ii-series-induction-motors/5ik90ua-75?&plpver=11&origin=keyword&by=prod&filter=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I added a couple of modifications to the Case Pro that make it more user-friendly and less prone to damage. 1. I installed a microswitch on the case feeder tube, a few inches above the bushing. Wired it in series with both the sizer and the feeder motors. This prevents the machine from running when you either run out of cases, or also, if your feeder jams. Otherwise you just keep wearing out the feeder motor or clutch. What happens once the "last" case clears the switch? you should still have a few cases in there, right? Do you manually remove cases or you just wired the switch to the CF motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Can someone take a pic of there single phase Data tag? Thanks Kevin I did some research and this is the motor on the PW auto drive. http://catalog.orientalmotor.com/item/ac-motors-gearmotors-/tors-induction-motors-k-ii-series-induction-motors/5ik90ua-75?&plpver=11&origin=keyword&by=prod&filter=0 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 If you plan to build your own, I suggest 1/4 hp motor or higher. The 1/8 hp will do but a little more HP won't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I added a couple of modifications to the Case Pro that make it more user-friendly and less prone to damage. 1. I installed a microswitch on the case feeder tube, a few inches above the bushing. Wired it in series with both the sizer and the feeder motors. This prevents the machine from running when you either run out of cases, or also, if your feeder jams. Otherwise you just keep wearing out the feeder motor or clutch. What happens once the "last" case clears the switch? you should still have a few cases in there, right? Do you manually remove cases or you just wired the switch to the CF motor? Great question! The way the switch is positioned now, there are still 12 cases in there, so I simply press on the switch lever with my finger - easy to do - and let it push them through. I am thinking about moving it lower, so perhaps only have to deal with 3-4 cases, but it is not big deal anyway. You can also easily install a pushbutton on the switch box, to bipass that microswitch, Had a chance to watch the resettable circuit breaker in action. One case got stuck, so it turned the machine OFF, then ON again, and that cleared the jam, as I was hoping. So I hightly recommend it - a bit pricey, but effective. BTW, the 30rpm number I gave before, from memory, was incorrect, it actually runs at 18rpm. To me this is not an issue, but I understand that it might look slow to some folks. I don't babysit the machine, I load it and go do some reloading, while hearing it churning. When it stops, I go and check what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Mine is just a bit faster than 30 rpm. I didn't do anything special except make a clutch for the motor. Video http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/reloading/casepro/th_casepro.mp4 Edited January 17, 2015 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Close to 40rpm is good for me....not a race but if I can roll size the brass quicker and keep reliability then I am happy. Now I am working on my second Case pro....installing a new motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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