czbeardly Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hi! Been lurking for a while, thought it was time to do a quick intro since I have been asking a few of the forum members about Open builds based on the CZ SP01. I live in Sweden, work as a IT-Admin/Deployment specialist at a University/Private sector (been switching back and fourth between the two) for about 9 years. I got suckered into shooting by a friend back in late 2011 and got my "green card" - something that is needed to own a handgun in Sweden. Got yet again suckered into IPSC pretty fast, took my IPSC course in late 2012, started training and going to matches last year. Got somehow voted to take over the IPSC Group at the local club by the last leader (who also was my IPSC examinator). Took the first RO course a few weeks ago and passed. Looking forward for the last snow (yeah, I live that high up in the country) to go away this weekend so I can start training for the first matches. I shot 4 matches last year, and I got about ~14 lined up this year, with my club hosting atleast 3 level II matches this season. I currently shoot a CZ SP01 Shadow in Production - however rebuilding it for Standard minor (I know! should be a .40 in standard), and a CMMG fitted Hera 15th for the Mini-Rifle divison. Also trying to prepare myself for a course with Eric G. this summer. Turned out that the creator of shoot n score it is in my club and knows Grauffel since a couple of years back, and got him to visit our small club around midsummers eve. Been watching alot of forum posts about tips, training and gunsmithing so I figured why not sign up. Cheers, the Beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Welcome to the forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiestovepipe Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Beard Welcome aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Welcome to the forum. Is IPSC a popular pistol sport in Sweden? Do you reload and if so how are the powder supplies over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Välkommen till forumet! vilka är de vapenlagar som i sverige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Välkommen till forumet! vilka är de vapenlagar som i sverige? It's kinda like California, but more subjective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czbeardly Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 To answer Zoomy and Leadpilot questions. Zoomy, IPSC is gaining popularity, but it still has a stigma compared to the traditional diciplines like 25m (~27yardish) bullseye in international precision target, Nordic field (a form of shooting mostly in, you guessed it the Nordic countries) and PPC. I do not have my IPSC licence infront of me but I Think it says number 15XX something, so while we are not many, we are growing. My club is ~30 people and we are holding a IPSC course in a few weeks with 8 new students, so little by little we gain popularity. Powder supplies is not an issue, since Europé has plenty of manufacuters of both ammunition and supplies. I do not reload (yet...) as it just is too time consuming, IPSC being not my only hobby I have to spend time on. I follow many forums, reddit/r/guns amongst others and while the US was having a great .22lr shortage, we had no issues getting the little stuff. Seriously, my club just bought something like 70.000 cci standard, and are Selling them to members for crazy prices like 250$ for 5000rnds... Leadpilot: Lets say the laws are restrictful, and I would guess some of the hardest in Europé (besides the UK that has a full handgun ban). I will describe the process for the average Joe. For hunting: Take a course, ususally either a few times each month for 2-3 months, or a crashcourse over a weekend - boom, any huntingrifle or shotgun is yours to purchase. For Handguns: Find a club that holds a beginners course, they usually only hold one per year, and accept no more then perhaps 5-10 students each time. The course is both a writen exam and shooting with a teacher. The course usually takes 6 months and at the end you get your "green card" and can submit for a licence for your first handgun - .22lr only. Another 6 months you can submit a licence for whatever caliber handgun you want, there are however a few conditions in all of this. - The club sends an certificate that you are Active in the shootingclub, that you attend practice sessions and competitions - without this, no handgun. - All handgun license since 2003 (I Think) are limited to 5 years, then you must renew the license - no club/competition activity - no handgun. It might sound worse then it is, but in the end more people that acctually want to compete ends up being Active in the community. We had a few people that started, got their first .22lr licence, then just stop showing up to club events and competitions. We have extreamly little crime involving stolen legal guns, most weapons used in crime - I am sad to say - comes from ex-russian countries in the east. It is sadly a well documented fact :/ But aha! Average Joe wants an AR or an AK style rifle? Well, then it is IPSC. It took IPSC something like 15+ years to be approved as a sport here, the Police was not happy and despite wanting to restrict legal gunownership (all licence applications are handled by the Police in Sweden). Right now you need to have been an Active member of a IPSC club for atleast 2 years, have atleast three level 2 matches without DQ's Before you can submit for a AR/AK licence. We just dodged a bill that would have ment the end for IPSC rifle, and most any other semi-automatic rifle, as they wanted to make magazines beeing registered as a licence mandatory part, limit all semi-automatic rifles to 6 rounds capacitiy and no detachable Magazines. I guess you have beard these kind of things before. This bill was "targeting the criminals" - but it only effected sporting and hunting. All in all we won just a few weeks ago and the bill was pretty much scraped. Do I think it sucks that I more or less is seen as a criminal in waiting or the next Breivik? (the norwegian mass shooter a few years ago) Yeah it does, but at the same time, I have no need or do ever feel so unsafe I wanted to be able to carry outside the range. Since I took over running the IPSC portion of the club, I see alot of e-mails in the nature of "dude, I do really want an AR, how do I start with that - and do I really need to go to competitions?" When I explain the process, and that it will be a (few) years before he can get a one... well needless to say, I have not gotten a reply back yet. This is the normal version, yes there are other ways, and there is infact one other way to get an AK/AR. There is even a way to get fully automatic submachineguns for competitions, but that is for another storytime. //CZBeardly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Very interesting! Thanks for the explanation. I see that same kind of system coming the U.S. in 10 to 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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