asphirosis Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Is there any noticable reduction in muzzle rise with a compensator on a 9mm match? Who's tried this out? Is it worth the $$$??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yes there would be a noticeable reduction in both recoil and muzzle rise with a compensator especially if you are running major power factor ammo. Is it worth the money? it all depends on what you are doing with the gun. I would say for competition shooting Open division with major PF ammo it would definitely be worth it. other than competition I can't think of a reason to run a comp on a 9mm Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah you would need to run the right powder to get the maximum effectiveness out of that comp. If you're just running soft loads with small powder charges then its not going to do a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asphirosis Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Is Major 9mm ammo (+P ammo) safe in a 2011 model Witness Elite Match w/ rail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Sure, a Match can handle +P ammo, but I don't think factory +P ammo would give you the desired effect with a compensator. I have two compensated pistols and seven compensators; when I first started my quest for the elusive, 'flat-shooting' 9mm, I didn't reload and hoped to buy factory ammo which would get me the results I wanted. I had no luck. Some factory loads felt EXACTLY the same with or without the comp.What you want for a comp is SLOW powder, but unfortunately slow powder in a non compensated gun produces more felt recoil and since the vast majority of commercially loaded ammo customers do not have compensators, factory ammo tends to utilize faster burning powder. [/non-scientific, purely speculative analysis]. Edited May 31, 2013 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 There are a few of the comp designs I have which do have some effect with factory ammo, but nothing too mind blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Is Major 9mm ammo (+P ammo) safe in a 2011 model Witness Elite Match w/ rail? Yes the tanfoglio platform can hande +p 9mm or 9mm loaded to major power factor, but just to note 9mm Major and 9mm+p are not the same thing, 9mm major is quite a bit hotter. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Well "technically" 9mm major has nothing to do with pressure. I"m pretty sure I could make major with my 4.75" limited gun staying within +P pressures. You only need to push a 147 @ 1116 or a 124 @ 1325. Edited May 31, 2013 by Nealio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asphirosis Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 So, if 9mm major ammo (with this slow burning powder) is not available for me to purchase, and if I'm unwilling to reload my own ammo, it sounds like I'm better off not spending the money for a comp. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Personally I think the whole "+P"/"+P+" thing is just a marketing ploy, I searched the internet for some advertised +P and +P+ loads, and everything came to right around 150PF, standard, el cheapo 9mm bulk ammo rides around 135PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Quote from Starline's 9mm +P brass page: "9MM+P has no difference from the standard 9mm Luger other than headstamp designation for load segregation. Due to standard case design, it will handle +P pressures with no problems." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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