PSSOH22 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Hey guys! I was wondering on some load data for 9mm and VV. I was using REDDOT and 231 for awhile, but just got 4lb's of 320 and need to load up some old bullets i have laying around. Ive got 115 and 147 jacketed, and 124 LRN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The real question is, "where did you acquire this 4lb jug of N320"? I've been searching for a 4 lb jug or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSOH22 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Fin, Fur, Feather in Ashland, OH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 No kidding! Anybody know why N320 is in short supply right now? Robert, try 4.2 to 4.5 of N320 for the 115 FMJs, presuming you're wanting to make minor, right? But if you have 147's I'd run those with the N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyM Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 No kidding! Anybody know why N320 is in short supply right now? Supposedly, a container from Finland is "lost" or at least that's what my supplier is telling me. If it's not found, it may be March before we see more N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonS Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 My pet 9mm minor load, for a STI Edge. 3.5 gr VVN320, 147 MG CMJ, 1.125 should put you close to 129 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) No kidding! Anybody know why N320 is in short supply right now? Supposedly, a container from Finland is "lost" or at least that's what my supplier is telling me. If it's not found, it may be March before we see more N320 Good thing I have 12 pounds in the garage! My favorite 9mm load was 2.8gr of 320 with a 160gr moly bullet. I think I bumped to 3.4gr with a 147 Montana Gold Edited October 3, 2011 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSOH22 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 I am actually shoot IDPA and im not sure what pf is. I will have to check to make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesb74 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 What about for MG124 hp's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I am actually shoot IDPA and im not sure what pf is. I will have to check to make sure IDPA power floor for SSP and ESP and USPSA Minor power factor are the same. 125 or 125,000 , depending on how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSOH22 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 I am actually shoot IDPA and im not sure what pf is. I will have to check to make sure IDPA power floor for SSP and ESP and USPSA Minor power factor are the same. 125 or 125,000 , depending on how you look at it. Gotcha! I appreciate the response. I will have to do a little load devolpment i guess, no biggie! Ive never used a 160 gr before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Good point. I've spent the past few days looking for a 4 pounder, and everyone says they've been out of stock for months. I've seen a 1 pounder (http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/sid=68240/pid=35483/Product/Vihtavouri-N320-Powder-1-lb?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&mc_id=s8000&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c291_a_7c3470_a_7c749004641_d_749004641_d_5547) but I'd rather buy in bulk and save some $ long term. The real question is, "where did you acquire this 4lb jug of N320"? I've been searching for a 4 lb jug or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No kidding! Anybody know why N320 is in short supply right now? Supposedly, a container from Finland is "lost" or at least that's what my supplier is telling me. If it's not found, it may be March before we see more N320 Good thing I have 12 pounds in the garage! My favorite 9mm load was 2.8gr of 320 with a 160gr moly bullet. I think I bumped to 3.4gr with a 147 Montana Gold What is your address and do you have a large dog or an alarm system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu46and2 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 3.4 gr N320 with MG Jacketed 147's makes minor PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 My pet 9mm Minor Load, out of my G17: 124 gr MG JHP 4.2 gr N320 1.160 OAL Federal SPP Stock barrel, makes 130 PF all day long. If you're running a longer barrel, you should be able to get away with a bit less powder. 4.15 (measured across 10 charges) has me above the power floor at all times, but not comfortably enough for a Major Match. I'm told M&P's end up with less velocity with the same loads, but YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSOH22 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 I just did some chrono testing with some 124's and VV320. I shot them through a 5" 1911 and Sig 226. 4.0 put me over with 5 shots at 988, 1056, 1031, 1042, and 1063, but i think i would bump the charge to 4.1-4.2 to be safe. This is with the 1911. The 226 at the same charge was 994, 975, 966, 951, 974. I am going to run these at 4.2 and im going to do some intense load development for the 147's. That is going to be my go to bullet after i run these Precision Delta's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The data you're getting off the 226 is consistent with all of the testing I did as well. Also note that at least in my case, with the increase in powder charge, the ES and (especially) the SD drops off. I don't have the notebook in front of me, but IIRC, with 4.0 grains the SD was something like 14, with 4.1 it was 9 and with 4.2 it's down to 7. (All taken across 25 shots.) No pressure signs for me as of yet, and I'm using Federal primers. The extended tip on my striker is starting to leave deeper indentions, but certainly no cratering or flattening, and the "Glock square" smudge looks no different than factory stuff. The load is accurate, consistent, and reasonably clean-- especially in terms of "clean burning", as there's no caked on crap and the fouling is pitch black and wipes away clean and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSOH22 Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 ended up going with 4.08 grs with the 124 fmj Precision delta's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I believe Schanz Supply in Otsego, Mkichigan has a supply of VV N-310 and N-320 in 4lb. containers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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