steveumd Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks for taking a moment to read my thread. I am looking for an 9mm accuracy load using a jacketed or plated bullet with Clays powder (I have about 4 lbs. on hand). Any other recommendations are welcome, clean burning a plus. Please include bullet, primer, powder, brass, OAL. Thanks to all who reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Most people I've talked to haven't had very good accuracy with Clays, in 9mm. Titegroup, or VVN320 behind a 125 grain bullet, or, 320 behind a 147. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkjr Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I personally have not used Clays. Clays is known for being an extremely soft shooting powder, but has a reputation depending on who you asked for not being an accurate powder. I am considering giving it a try. Every pistol is different. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp Clays load data is listed. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeZer Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) I've been using Clays for a while now and like it quite a bit. It's cheap, calls for low powder loads, clean burning and soft shooting, what's there not to like? Not as hot burning as TiteGroup, that is a big plus for those who shoot lead - less smoke. I shot 4500rds without cleaning the gun, just light oiling (Mobil 1 10w30) every 500rds - not a single issue (I careless if you don't believe me). Gun- 2008 CZ SP-01 Shadow (factory, not Custom or anything, I did some work on it myself thou). Bullet - Berry's 124gr RNDS. Nice bullet, consistent and accurate. I'm sold on those and buy them 10K at a time ($68/1000 before tax, local pickup). OAL- 1.12". You can load longer with non-CZ gun/s. Powder- Clays, 3.6gr. PF 129. Primer- Federal SPP. It get's flattened but if you use CCI - no flattening. Brass- mixed. The round I crank out is more accurate than many (if not most) shooters are. Cheers! Edited May 9, 2011 by CeeZer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I used to run Clays behind a 124gr bullet for a while (about two years) and the recoil impulse is negligible. Accurate wise, it was OK but not spectacular (about 3" group at 25 yds rested). I later discovered that I could achieve a considerably smaller group size by switching to a different powder. I decided to shoot WSF behind the same bullet and achieved much better results so I ditched the Clays in favor of better accuracy. WSF does produce a little bit more perceived but, truth be told, not enough to make me want to go back to Clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matzka Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I've been using Clays for a while now and like it quite a bit. It's cheap, calls for low powder loads, clean burning and soft shooting, what's there not to like? Not as hot burning as TiteGroup, that is a big plus for those who shoot lead - less smoke. I shot 4500rds without cleaning the gun, just light oiling (Mobil 1 10w30) every 500rds - not a single issue (I careless if you don't believe me). Gun- 2008 CZ SP-01 Shadow (factory, not Custom or anything, I did some work on it myself thou). Bullet - Berry's 124gr RNDS. Nice bullet, consistent and accurate. I'm sold on those and buy them 10K at a time ($68/1000 before tax, local pickup). OAL- 1.12". You can load longer with non-CZ gun/s. Powder- Clays, 3.6gr. PF 129. Primer- Federal SPP. It get's flattened but if you use CCI - no flattening. Brass- mixed. The round I crank out is more accurate than many (if not most) shooters are. Cheers! I had good luck with Clays in my Shadow too - loaded 3.8 gr. under Zero 124gr. FMJ's. Nice, accurate, soft shooting. Like you said,flattens Federal primers. When I used Winchester primers, had no flattening issues. I've since switched to VV N320, which I also like. But when I run out of that, I'm betting I go back to Clays, just because of lower cost and greater availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Clays is a little too fast for 9mm if you are aiming for accuracy and 130pf, if you are flattenning out Federals then the pressures are a little too high. Try TG when the N320 runs dry, simialr characteristics as N320 but made in the US and not out of order on price. I looked at Intl Clay and found it OK, but TG was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveumd Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thank you to all who replied, it has been very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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