G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Iam not sure on the pull on the Target but I can tell you the Custom is sweet!!! Angus did alittle extra work on mine but it cost me a extra $100 but it was worth it. I cant believe that trigger pull is production legal. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 yeah, new pistol. it will be kinda alien for a while. hell, i picked up this sp-01 bone stock this march and slapped some parts on it. i went from tanking low C to shooting an 82% today and now i have a trophy wall since i got that thing. i am pretty sure i'm going to be auto-bumped to A class after area 8 last weekend when i beat all the A's and most of the M's. i'm lovin' this thing. course now that i said that, i'm going to tank ga state next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 any CZ that rolls out of either angus' or mink's shop is going to be about 6lb/2lb or better (depending on what primer you specify you are using), and will reset the moment the trigger comes off the overtravel screw. people who use federal primers can usually go a bit lighter since the primer is softer. i once for a cz 40b SAO conversion done and got the trigger pull down dangerously low, one guy said it was nicer than his benchrest rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I know eerw gets his Shadow trigger pull down to 5#/2# on DA/SA. I'm a pistol newbie and don't have the skill to do the work on my own.. wish I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 yup. gotta use federal primers. the DA pull can only get as so light. the energy used to pull the trigger is roughly the same energy exerted by the compressed hammer spring onto the hammer onto firing pin onto the primer. the rest of a light double action pull is found in proper geometry and polishing. justaute, go check out the cz forum. it ain't all that hard. eerw, myself, and others have how-to guides up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorDanO Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I've only bumped the safety on once with my Shadow. I was reloading and my thumb must have flipped it up somehow. It was during a real hoser stage during this years Texas State Limited. Cost me a couple seconds because I could figure out why nothing was happening when I pulled the trigger. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) I cant wait to get use to the CZ because I know my scores are going to improve, I can already tell my 2A's are getting better and better than before. I just cant say enough good things about it. JorDano I did the same thing today I thought I locked my pistol up but the saftey was on. I was trying to pull back the slide I dropped my mag and tried to clear a jam then the RO said your safetys on lol. I must of been there 10 seconds. Edited September 5, 2010 by G34 CORDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 yep. it's nice when you have a gun with no recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thanks, I'll do just that. My current pull isn't bad at 7.6#/3.7# DA/SA. yup. gotta use federal primers. the DA pull can only get as so light. the energy used to pull the trigger is roughly the same energy exerted by the compressed hammer spring onto the hammer onto firing pin onto the primer. the rest of a light double action pull is found in proper geometry and polishing. justaute, go check out the cz forum. it ain't all that hard. eerw, myself, and others have how-to guides up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 nothing wrong with those pull weights. my ex-carry 75b was probably 8/3 just because i wanted it to absolutely go bang. i made up for it by having a trigger pull like glass. you didn't notice the extra weight from the smoothness. i never clean my primary comp gun so it's always on the gritty side, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 burningsquirrels....did you clip your hammer spring? Will this "self trigger job" work with factory loads? I have yet to start re-loading. yup. gotta use federal primers. the DA pull can only get as so light. the energy used to pull the trigger is roughly the same energy exerted by the compressed hammer spring onto the hammer onto firing pin onto the primer. the rest of a light double action pull is found in proper geometry and polishing. justaute, go check out the cz forum. it ain't all that hard. eerw, myself, and others have how-to guides up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 with a stock hammer, a 15 lb hammer spring should work just fine with factory loads. some run 13 with no issues. i would also change the recoil spring to 11 lb which works for most. the only way to tune a recoil spring is to shoot rounds at a fixed rate and see where they track. but 11 lb works for most comp loads. i know some with 10, some with 13. it depends on you and your ammo. check the cz FAQ for common break-in and issues, it has many good notes in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 oh, and if it's a custom shop pistol, it will have the reliability work already done. an out of box CZ..... most all are fine but some now and then have shown easily fixed problems. no different than any other pistol out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 I have a 13 lb main and 11 lb recoil and it has been 100% so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thanks. I just replaced the hammer spring with a 13# and the recoil spring with a 11#. Thus far, the trigger already feels a bit better. My 7.6# DA and 3.7# SA are with the stock 16#/14# hammer/recoil springs that come with the stock Shadow Target. Not sure what my current DA/SA pull weight is. I don't have a pull scale. with a stock hammer, a 15 lb hammer spring should work just fine with factory loads. some run 13 with no issues. i would also change the recoil spring to 11 lb which works for most. the only way to tune a recoil spring is to shoot rounds at a fixed rate and see where they track. but 11 lb works for most comp loads. i know some with 10, some with 13. it depends on you and your ammo. check the cz FAQ for common break-in and issues, it has many good notes in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 yep. i run a 13# and i won't say how many coils are cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Just measured my trigger pull-weight using a crude "hanger-water-bottle-weight-bar" method. DA is about 6.9# and SA is around 2.9#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Gordy...sorry to digress on your thread. Good night y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 what does cutting the coils off do exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 My understanding is that it lightens the DA pull. A few CZ experienced/hardcore owners have clipped two coils off the hammer spring. what does cutting the coils off do exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 I think he is talking about cutting coils on his recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 pretty sure it's the hammer/main spring...at least that's what I have read on czforum and this site. I think he is talking about cutting coils on his recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 I know there is alot of talk about cutting recoil springs, alot in the Glock forum. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 didn't pay attention to your location until now....fellow Texan. Ok, after a ton of college football, time for bed. I know there is alot of talk about cutting recoil springs, alot in the Glock forum. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34 CORDY Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Great Texans think alike lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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