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I've seen multi day matches that planned on having prone but eliminated it because of weather prior to anyone shooting. But you of course can't do that in the middle of the match.
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1 hour ago, pskys2 said:
Yes I run a club that's averaging 20+ per month. Another indoor club has a few and another club 4 hours north averages over a dozen.
That explains a lot. I've seen a few times where shooters will try to get a bunch of guys to shoot single stack or production even though they normally shoot other divisions. Most shooters still have a ss or production gun around. But that wouldn't happen normally with revolvers because those same shooters won't have a revolver and gear to shoot a match. You'd have to have guys who are already geared up for revolver, ICORE shooters.
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1 hour ago, pskys2 said:
There is a hearty group of revolver guys in the area, we are kind of like pushers. And seem to attract more like minded from outside our area. Really hoping to get in the 20's at the free state.
Is there much ICORE in that area?
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Local matches here, it's rare to go prone, almost never. Bigger matches it's more likely. I've got 2 level 2s in the next couple of months but stages haven't been posted yet.
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1 hour ago, Ice36 said:
Kansas free state as of right now, CO 37, Revo 18, LO 17 then production 13.
That's really unusual. Not a big level 2. I've shot revolver but only in ICORE with 6 shot speedloaders. I'm shooting 2 level 2s in the next few months. One with 300+ shooters has 3 revo, the other with 400+ shooters has six.
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What level 2 or 3 match has revolver participation at 2nd or 3rd most shooters?
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A few iron sight divisions aren't holding anyone back from shooting an optic in 9mm. More optic divisions now then ever.
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The Texas star can be frustrating for new shooters. Just last Saturday we had one and when I shot a plate it fell and knocked another one off. Happened a couple of times. Reshoot.
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I've never been to Nationals but have shot quite a few Level 2s. I would guess that half or so of the level 2s have had prone positions. Some may have a second position where you can shoot the same targets but it's usually better to shoot prone. Seems like there are fewer low ports these days. I'm surprised that with 180+ matches you've never seen prone.
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Yes. Just trying to point out the rarity of first shot on any stage being weak hand only required.
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On 4/18/2024 at 5:20 AM, IHAVEGAS said:
If the course of fire requires you to start hammer down and weak hand only I very much notice it, if the first shot is particularly challenging I'm aware of it and try to place extra focus on a tight grip and smooth pull. Regardless of the gun a tough first shot requires a little extra focus on getting the gun stable after the draw, for me anyway. Both situations are somewhat rare.
The transition from 1st shot to subsequent shots I don't notice at all, I think it is like the transition from first shot with finger starting outside the trigger guard to second shot with all guns, it just happens.
I'm curious. How many times have you had to start from the draw, hammer down, weakhand only start in the last few years? Even classifiers that have weak hand usually start freestyle then transition to weak hand after a mandatory reload. There may be a classifier that starts weak hand, can't remember though.
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It's going to be very rare that your first target on a stage is a single 35 yard target. The first da pull shouldn't be a big deal but you're usually going to have a several target array and can shoot the easier target first if you want to.
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I didn't Start USPSA until I was 55-56, turn 71 in a couple of weeks. I just do a lot of chores on our property. Mowing, weed wacker, running a couple more irrigation lines, digging post holes running some new fence, pounding t posts, tree trimming, putting in new drip lines as my wife plants her huge garden. Occasionally stacking hay for our goats and donkey. Going to build a greenhouse before next winter. Things like that but no running or lifting weights. Summer heat in the afternoon makes it harder. I built a nice outdoor shower to cool down working out there.
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Although the peak temperatures are in the afternoon where I shoot is routinely 100 degrees + in the summer. I'd get home and plop down after the match, setup, shooting, resetting stages and completer teardown. My wife would kid me about being tired after playing with my friends.
After she got a carry license she decided to shoot matches with me to improve her shooting and gun handling. She shot for about a year including getting there early and helping with everything, set up through teardown. After she saw what it took to put on the match, particularly on hot days now she knows how I was pooped out even though she's not shooting matches. She was impressed with the shooters that she saw that were always there early for setup and everything else.
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I shoot USPSA primarily. Almost exclusively for 5 or 6 years. A buddy of mine runs a local IDPA match and kept asking me when I was going to come out. For a change of pace I've started shooting his matches again. Shot a lot of IDPA years ago.
Now with the changes there are a lot of 18 round stages. I've been shooting LO in USPSA for nearly a year now but will shoot my 1911 at the IDPA matches.
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Also your rear start position is usually well into the bay for safety left and right.
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Kind of funny. I glanced through their rules and some were about climbing over walls. Things like that. Along with the usual gun divisions and everything else. At first I thought thos was going to be about PCSL? matches.
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The last memory stage I shot was reasonable. From 3 positions I could shoot everything without confusion. Some shooters shot more as they were moving laterally. But some memory stages can get ridiculous.
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1 hour ago, pskys2 said:
Practicing with a Dot tells you where your grip and trigger work are lacking. But at the expense of learning the sight picture needed for a given shot with iron sights.
With the trend for Dots on all things Iron Sights are becoming dinosaurs! Heck even USPSA is looking at allowing Dots on Revolvers! Oh the humanity.
It might be different for new shooters who are initially learning with a dot. Good shooters who have been using irons for 10-20-30 years already know how to align them the sights. If the benefit for them using an optic is improving their grip and trigger control their overall iron sight shooting improves also.
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14 hours ago, MikeyScuba said:
To each their own. While I don't like shooting irons I am much better with them now than before I started shooting with a dot. I was as surprised as anyone.
I used to shoot ICORE but havent been for several years. As far as shooting with an optic a discussion I had with a good shooter convinced me to give it a try. He always shot Limited and Singlestack with iron sights of course but he started shooting Carry Optics with a slide mounted optic. Later he noticed that his iron sight shooting had improved and he wished he'd tried an optic years ago.
I've been shooting in the provisional Limited Optics, still getting used to it but improving. The first time I shot with iron sights again I could tell I was using target focus more.
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People that just shoot pistols seem to really have issues if they have to go prone or shoot a low port. When I say issues I don't mean issues making the shots happen, I just mean they don't like to LOL
Some shooters can go prone or shoot from a low port but don't like to do it, but there are some that just physically can't do it. I can go prone but not just pop up if prone was in the middle of a stage.
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2 minutes ago, outerlimits said:
I'm almost 70-just shot a rifle stage at superstition mystery mountain 3 gun with a port no higher than 10" from the dirt, in the middle of a stage. nobody bit&hed about it either...
That's expected in 3 gun. In USPSA when they definitely have two places to shoot a specific target from it's usually to accommodate shooters who have difficulty getting into the shooting position, prone for example. Not to allow an easier shot if you can run up closer. I've seen alternate positions to avoid a Cooper tunnel. Usually the alternate position costs you some time to avoid the problem position.
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There can be specialty matches where shooters know that the match has more running, obstacles, climbing then other matches. As for 100yds running, hurdles, many more difficult shooting positions, that's fine at a match thats know for those challenges but I don't expect or want it at a typical level 2 or above USPSA match
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I have shot the Schmidt standards several times (starts with 50 yard target with par time). This has been at the Western States Single Stack match. Even as a B shooter it was fun.
Load and Make Ready - is it ok to pull the hammer back before racking the slide ?
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
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You can engage the safety and holster in Limited or Limited Optics but it must be hammer fully down in Production or Carry Optics, assuming it is still functioning as da/sa.