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I`m thinkin that will just allow people to apply more torque than needed for such a small task. It dosent take much pressure & torque to pull a bullet. If anything, your actually adding more stress to the tool itself. I see 2 things happening with this... 1) bend and ruin the handle faster 2) ruin more bullets by applying more torque than is really needed to grip the bullet. I dunno, i dont have any problem at all using my RCBS collet bullet puller.

Thats great... this should work really well for you then. I think your going to like the difference in how smooth the indexing is afterwards. Make sure you lube the oring before you install it. On a side note, i`ve had to readjust the left pawl on a couple other presses, so be aware that you might have to tinker with it just a bit if needed.

For those that have tried this oring mod, please do a follow up in this thread in how it works for you. I`d really like to think that this is really helping people, or if its not.

Your welcome! Let me know how you make out with it. Be interesting to see if this makes people happier. It has worked flawless for me for years.

Your welcome! Is your press the newer LNL AP EZ-Ject press...? The older presses wont work very good with the oring. Please do holler back and let me know how you made out with it. Dont forget to lube the oring before installing it! I use a very lite film of lanolin.

You`re welcome! I`ve have had ZERO issues using the orings under the shell plate for years. Just make sure you rub some sort of lube on the oring before you install it. And also back your shell plate up with one hand, and push the oring down into the groove in the sub plate, then just walk the shell plate clockwise with your hand to feed the oring safely into the groove of the sub plate.

Cheaper thru McMasterCarr $6.95 (for 10 of them) https://www.mcmaster.com/9262K939

Thats pretty funny... i dont know how many people i`ve heard that from, and they still had problems.

That isnt a 100% fix. Been there done that with many of these LNL AP presses. The oring makes the shell plate run MUCH smoother.

Thank you for the link. Though i dont do amazon for my own personal reasons, it will help others i`m sure.

The rubber oring sits perfect in the sub plate groove. The cases do not hit the oring at all, as long as you`ve lubed the oring and its in the sub plate groove properly. The nice thing about running the oring, is that it does NOT wear on the sub plate like the metal spring does. I`ve seen the metal spring actually wear the sub plates pretty hard. Now i`m sure that the metal spring wont wear out the sub plate, but why add more friction and wear to your equipment.

Your welcome! Please do come back and let me know how it worked out for you. I have had ZERO issues ever since eliminating the metal retaining spring.

Oh no doubt sarge

I just bought one of the latest PACT2 PRO models. I hope that one never takes a hit, because no hardware store will ever have anything that i will be able to buy to fix it.

Come to think of it, and you`re right... my last place of employment, we went thru alot of plastic spray bottle`s when we were using denatured alcohol to rinse the dye-kem off from the parts after inspection.

Yeah i`ve got a few bottles of liquid lanolin off from amazon, but i was looking for cheaper alternatives and availability. I cant stand buying on amazon... their prices are ridiculous, and being i`m a cheapskate, i wont pay for the "prime" membership to get the faster shipping. But waiting 2 weeks for something to come from amazon is BS in my opinion. The hornady UNIQUE mixed with 99% (HEET) seems to be as good, or maybe even better than anything else i`ve tried. I`ve been buying the red HEET at walmart for awhile. No, i dont have any dillon case lube. I likely wont be buying any either. By the time i buy it from dillon, and then pay sales tax on it now, and then the cost shipping, its just not any way worth it to me.

Beef, i did some research, my friend orders them for me thru McMasterCarr. I`ll post a link in here for you down below. Your welcome https://www.mcmaster.com/9262K939 And here is the thread i started on it just incase you wanted to read it.

I have a friend of mine that owns a machine shop, he gets them thru McMasterCarr for me. I suppose you could get them from amazon pretty easy. Just type the size i listed in amazon. Yeah the "magical Orings" fixes the powder bounce nonsense, it has 100% worked for me anyways, and many others that i told to try it over the years. I`ve yet to figure out why others haven`t thought it long before now. That`s what got me thinkin that i should share it and in hopes that it helps others. EDIT: I went to McMasterCarr and looked them up. Pretty sure this is the one my friend orders for me when i need them. This is a pack of 10 orings for $6.95 https://www.mcmaster.com/9262K939

ohhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooo.... i had that happen to me, but a friend of mine did it for me...lol.... i let him borrow my chrono and it came back in a billion pieces. He hit it right square in the middle... smoked it. He felt so bad. And yeah, he bought me a brand new one...lol. He hasnt borrowed it since...lol.

I dont know if this information is worthy of a sticky or not, but i thought i would share this with everyone here anyway. I had posted this information many years ago online to share with others, and thought it was worth a mention because i brought it up in another thread here recently and i`ve had people show intrest in what i said. Its been a big hit on a few other forums i`ve been a member of years ago. I`ve had a few people ask me to post on other forums what i did to stop the jumpy shell plates on the LNL AP press, to stop the powder from jumping out of the pistol cases after the case is charged. I`m sure most of us have seen all the so-called fixes all over youtube many times, but nobody ever really fixes their main problem. You never see any of those so-called fixes re-posted because what they did usually dosent fix the powder jump issues 100% because changing calibers changes every thing all over again. The most comical one i`ve seen is where this guy took a grinder to his sub plate. Its NOT necessary to do that, actually kind of stupid really. But i guess hornady dont mind selling new sub plates...lol. Folks, every time you change calibers, your changing the shell plate, different calibers, different cases, and as soon as you go to a different caliber, the harmonics change with it, and that retaining spring dosent always work to its best ability, for you. My fix has worked for years, even way back 30+yrs ago when i bought my first Hornady Pro-Jector press brand new. The shell plate "case retaining spring" is the main culprit. I eliminated the steel case retaining spring and exchanged it for a rubber oring. The rubber oring size that works is 2.5mm X 69mm. on the LNL AP ez-eject presses The oring dampens the shell plate as it indexes, and the oring actually keeps the case within the shell plate much firmer, and eliminates harmonics and shake as its indexing. You can still remove the cases with ease during the process with the oring installed just same as you would if it were the original steel case retaining spring. I`ll post a picture in here of one of my LNL`s with the oring installed on the press. When you put the oring on the shell plate, i use a very lite film of lanolin. (make sure you seat the oring in the sub plate groove, walk it in by turning the shell plate by hand) Do NOT use any type of penetrating oil to lube it. Penetrating oil can weep everywhere, even down into the primer system. So stay away from petroleum based lubricants. Just a bit of history, i`ve used orings on my hornady`s way back when i got my first hornady pro-jector press back in the 80`s because you couldnt get the retaining springs shortly after that press came out. So i started using orings back then and never looked back. And if you look at what hornady is charging you for those case retaining springs, thats just nuts! Orings are far cheaper! Now, if you have an older Hornady Pro-Jector press, you`ll need a 3.0mm X 69mm oring. The older hornadys used a bigger diameter spring. The sub plate is milled differently to allow the larger diameter shell plate retaining spring. Last time i contacted hornady, this older spring was no longer available, and for quite some time they havent had it. Now keep in mind, i dont load rifle cases on progressive presses. I only load pistol cases on progressive presses. Pistol cases after being charged always want to toss the powder with each indexing of the press. So if anyone would like to be the test rabbit for seeing if the oring fixes, or at least settles down the rifle case and powder jump during indexing, by all means, let everybody know your results in here. I`ve never tried rifles cases, and i dont intend to. SO let everybody know how yours work out. And keep in mind, my press is not your press, nore is your press my press, everybody`s equipment and technics are different. So dont come back in here and go off on a rant if this dosent work, for you. What i can tell you is, i`ve seen the "oring fix" put alot of happy smiles on ALOTTA people faces. YMMV!

I suppose you can just type in the size on Amazon. It pulls it up for me every time. I have a friend of mine that gets them from McMaster Carr for me. (Size M2.5mm x 69mm Buna-N O-Ring) I dont have the part number because he just gives them to me in a plastic bag. I`m actually writing & posting a thread right now in the forum here, and it will have some info over there. But i`ve posted the size for you in here cause i`m not finished the other thread yet. Now be aware, this size is only for the Hornady LNL AP Ez_Eject presses. The older Hornady Pro-Jector presses use a 3.0mm X 69mm because the sub plate is different.

It sure did my friend, it sure did, thank you so much, again. I also saw a load in there for the 45... same load i use, excellent accuracy.

hmmmmmmmm, never thought of that

Or worse case scenario, they ban factory ammo all together! Some will say impossible... guess again, they`ll tax it right out from under you. Already seeing states pass laws where you cant buy it online, some states you have to have a special ammo card to buy ammo. They wont ever get rid of the guns, but they can make very hard for you to feed them guns, folks!