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My guess is that guys who tune or dial in 2011’s have experience in building up a 1911 already. I don’t own a 1911, though a friend is encouraging me to pick up the budget Springfield Defender 1911 that is available for $499. His idea is that I can start with a new trigger and then add on gradually to it from there until it’s built up to the levels of a higher end model. Sounds good, but it doesn’t appeal to me. Sounds like a CZ may be in my future.

Oh, and Oh! Then in my first match, I had a few more misses than I realized. I thought a couple of extra shots on steel and a make-up or two when I knew I had hit black, counted against me. In that case, I missed more than I realized. In any event, I was waaaay to slow in between targets. But my main focus was not on DQ’ing so, from that standpoint, it was a success.

OK, I get that you can shoot a target multiple times in order to improve a score. But, I take it that a hit on black is still counted as a miss, correct? And what about steel, if you miss it and keep firing until you hit it, are your misses counted?

My guess is that I'll either continue to shoot the 17 and move to production, or I'll add some things to the G22 and stay in limited.

O.K., I did not read the pinned thread at the top of this forum. My question is this, do the CZ competition guns need tuning out of the box, or is it that they can be tuned? At some point down the road, I will decide to quit shooting my stock Glock 17 and 22 in competition and purchase something specific for a particular division. Of course, the 2011's interest me, but I keep reading that they need to be dialed in. And that if you don't want to tinker, then just get a CZ. I don't like to tinker with my guns and prefer the simplicity of the Glocks. So, from that standpoint, a 9mm Shadow 2 or a TSO in .40 have a much greater appeal. The idea of pulling them out of the box, and clean and lube and shoot, is very appealing. However, when I looked at this forum, the first sticky at the top was in regards to tuning. So, do those two models need tuning to be competitive?

Just ordered a Magpul 21 rounder last night. While I agree that I'm giving up 2 rounds, it's better than the 15 rounders that I ran in my G22 in my first match. And will still give me 4 more over the 17 round G17 mags I plan to run in my next match. I'm far from a top shooter so it's no big deal. And if I'm running Limited Minor, I'm already giving up scoring. By the time the guns and gear start to make a difference, I'll get some base pads.

OK, that makes sense. Seems like Magpuls are good to go, but the ETS??? Some like them and some don't.

I guess if I was looking to buy a Chinese knockoff magazine for my Smith & Wesson, but we're talking about Glocks. So, if I buy an American made Magpul to go in my Austrian Glock, what's the problem?

I had a preassembled Hyve +2 for a Glock 43, but after a few range sessions, it quit feeding the 8th round. The +2 utilized the factory mag and spring and eventually didn't have enough tension. If I only loaded with 7, it would still work. Does anyone have any experience with these +5 Hyve's? I did see a Magpul 21 round mag that fits the 140mm limit. And ETS has 22 round mags for the 17 and 19 round mags for the G22. Are either the Magpul or ETS competition mags good options?

Does anyone sell fully assembled +5/6 competition mags for Glocks. Or are the base pads the only option?

Spending 3,000 on a 2011 is so far out of my range of thinking, that I can’t conceive. I would gradually add $800 to my G22 first before considering a 2011. Just my way of thinking. And that’s only after shooting the 17 for a while with Minor scoring. And then adding a magwell and a -connector to the 22. I’m cheap, and I realize that I have a lot of room for improvement before buying a competition gun.

Seems like the most practical thing to do is: shoot Limited Minor with the 17, add sights, get a belt/holster set up/get extra mag pouches/ learn with every match, and then move to Production. And 2 years later, decide what type of Limited gun I want to shoot.

My 17 has the stock sights with the back blacked out with a Sharpie. I have some money to spend, but I hate spending money on hobbies until I’m all in.

That makes sense in a way. Additional mag pouches + shooting 9mm is the cheapest way to go, which is very important to me. However, I don’t like stage planning. Maybe someday I will, but I just want to shoot and not worry about when to drop a mag more than once or twice, and making sure to do it on the run, etc...

My preference is to stick with the 22 because of the Major scoring and it’s the caliber to use in Limited. If I didn’t own a .40 S&W, then I wouldn’t go out and buy one, but since I have it.... As for running, I can do that. But I was a bit focused on not DQ’ing more than going fast. My main goal first time out was to finish all the stages.

Recently shot my first USPSA match and debated which pistol to use. Originally planned to shoot Production with my 17, but after some reading, I realized that Production isn’t really an “entry level” class due to the number of mag changes. I also would have had to purchase additional pouches. So, I decided to go with the Limited class and shoot either the 17 for Minor or my 22 for Major. I’m more accurate at slow fire with the 17 but not too far behind with the 22. I decided to shoot the 22 since I’m not the most accurate regardless and guessed I would score higher with the .40 caliber. As it turned out, my slowness in running the stages hurt me more than my accuracy, though that wasn’t great either. So, now I’m thinking I’ll try shooting Limited Minor next time out with the 17 and see if I can go faster but be more accurate. Don’t know if it will make that much a difference versus giving up Major scoring. My gut tells me to just stick with the 22 because of the scoring. Both guns are stock. Any opinions welcome.

Started shooting in late 2017 and just started doing competitive matches this year: GSSF indoor, local IDPA match, and now a local USPSA match. Will probably continue to shoot all three, but USPSA seems to be the one I like the best. I’ll have plenty of questions, but will try to read and search first.