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    The weather

    in What I Hate

    Posted · Edited by Fireant

    I've worked every night for just over 2 weeks getting things ready for a pretty cool Halloween themed match and it rained so much today that the bays are flooded and can't be used. It's raining so hard right now, I can't hear myself think even. I had 5 stages with a 180 round count total for the match, cool props and all. All for nothing :angry2:

    Oh yeah, I stayed home from the GA state match to run my local match too :(

    Sandbagging a classifier?

    in USPSA/IPSC Shooting

    Posted

    Yep, that may is the key. In 2007 my shooting buddy won the A6 in L10 as a B class shooter. On the drive up for the GA state he called headquarters to see why he was not bumped up to at least A class. They said that there were no GM's that shot in that division so no bump. So, he requested to be moved and they said no can do.

    On the bump for winning your class in a major, only if you shoot the next class up's percent for the match. My goal for the nationals this year was to shoot 75%, well I only shot 71% so no help on my percentage there. It actually brought mine down.

    DA/SA question

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    A friend of mine is shooting the local club match with his Taurus PT-92. It can be shot DA/SA or SA only. He shoots in limited. At the last match, one of the guys told him that since the gun could be shot DA on the first shot, that it had to be shot DA on the first shot. If it is shot SA only the thumb safety would be used. What would the official ruling be?

    If he is shooting limited and it has a thumb saftey, then it does not need to be shot DA for the first shot.

    Tuning the SPS big stick for 9mm

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    The problem is in the double to single transition on most of them, it is too wide in the front. Compare that area closely to a mag that works. 9mm in an SPS is a tuned mag only situation and if you want one that will hold up get one from Derek at Millenium.

    But Derek won't sell you one if he knows you are going to use it for 9mm. I talked to him several times and it boiled down to it was not 100% and he did not want to sell me something that would be trouble.

    Landmines and other penalty obstacles

    in Stage Comments or Questions

    Posted

    They had a landmine stage locally this summer at one of the matches. The 'landmines' were clay pigeons, and there were penalties if you broke any.

    Is this legal? I guess it must be.

    Has anyone incorporated other similar props into their stage designs? I've seen the 'carry the dummy' or 'carry the briefcase' before. I'm wondering about obstacle like penalties.

    Maybe:

    Shoot a steel plate that activates swinging clay pigeons over the shooting box, don't get hit! (safety problem?)

    Anyone seen anything or have any ideas?

    I saw one that had barrels in the shooting area and the barrels had target sticks on top of them. If you knocked off a stick it was a penalty.

    Knee-down why?

    in IDPA Rules

    Posted

    They stipulate 1 knee down so they don't have to worry about how high the shooter is in relation to the low cover. Does three things.'

    1.) Makes it easier to officiate as the SO doesn't have to worry about a strike zone

    2.) Makes it so tall people don't get penalized for not squinching behind low cover.

    3.) Makes for a topic that pops up on the forums from time to time. :roflol:

    Ted

    Never really thought about number 1, but you are right. It is either down or it's not. Very easy.

    Reminder - 7th Annual MCRC Toys for Tots Action Pistol Match

    in Match Announcements - Pistol Only - USPSA, IPSC & Misc.

    Posted

    Jack, my pc took a dump a week ago and I lost everything, it took until a couple of days ago to get it back up. How 'bout send me the sponsor info again if you don't mind. I'll also include in the sposorship an extra $100 to cover the entry fee for 5 junior shooters, pick'em any way you want to.

    Thanks,

    Kenny

    Awesome, Kenny! Thanks. I'll get the info to you shortly and add you to the Sponsor list. I hope you can make it this year. Take care.

    All he has to do is be semi awake when I roll past his driveway going to the match.

    Are hats with built in lights allowed?

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    Would that be considered allied equipment that must remain in the same location throughout the match?

    5.2.5.3 Unless specified in the written stage briefing, or unless required

    by a Range Officer, the position of holsters and allied equipment

    must not be moved or changed by a competitor during a match.

    Would you have to wear it for every stage?

    I do not think so. "Equipment" is that which is specifically referred to in the rule book such as your weapon, belt, mag holders, etc. So far we do not have a hat rule.

    Thanks, when I read the rule my internal Webster's made me think that allied equipment would be anything that is not part of the stage that you need to shoot that stage. Then I looked at the Glossary and USPSA defines it as:

    Allied equipment . . . . . . .Holsters, magazines, speed loading devices and/or

    their respective pouches.

    Very good thinking as long as the MD didn't declare it forbidden.

    Are hats with built in lights allowed?

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    Would that be considered allied equipment that must remain in the same location throughout the match?

    5.2.5.3 Unless specified in the written stage briefing, or unless required

    by a Range Officer, the position of holsters and allied equipment

    must not be moved or changed by a competitor during a match.

    Would you have to wear it for every stage?

    Scoring targets with hard cover or noshoots overlaping

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted · Edited by Fireant

    9.1.5 Impenetrable – The scoring area of USPSA scoring targets and noshoots

    is deemed to be impenetrable:

    9.1.5.1 If a bullet strikes wholly within the scoring area of a paper target,

    and continues on to strike the scoring area of another paper

    target, the hit on the subsequent paper target will not count for

    score or penalty, as the case may be.

    9.1.5.2 If a bullet strikes wholly within the scoring area of a paper target,

    and continues on to hit a plate or strike down a popper; this

    will be treated as range equipment failure. The competitor will

    be required to reshoot the course of fire, after it has been

    restored

    9.1.5.3 If a bullet strikes partially within the scoring area of a paper or

    metal target, and continues on to strike the scoring area of another

    paper target, the hit on the subsequent paper target will also

    count for score or penalty, as the case may be.

    9.1.5.4 If a bullet strikes partially within the scoring area of a paper or

    metal target, and continues on to strike down or hit the scoring

    area of another metal target, the subsequent metal target will

    also count for score or penalty, as the case may be.

    No where does it say that it does not exsist.

    4.1.4.1 Cover provided to hide all or a portion of a target will be considered

    hard cover. When possible hard cover should not be simulated

    but constructed using impenetrable materials (see Rule

    2.1.3). Whole paper targets must not be used solely as hard

    cover.

    This tells me that trying to use a NS to make the area dissapear is a no no. Incorrect, note bolded text. It is suggested.

    This tells me that I should use steel for hard cover, but I can use paint to simulate it. It also says that whole paper targets MUST not be used soley as hard cover. Hard cover is one thing a NS is a different thing. One does not score, the other scores a penalty. They are treated differently. We have positive scoring targets, negative scoring targets and those that are neither(hard cover) We can't call one the other and vice versa. If it's hard cover the underlying azone is gone, but a hit there can not be a NS penalty. If it is a NS then the bullet can continue on to score.

    It suggest the best way to do it but not the required way. 4.2.4.1 is what placing a no-shoot on top does.

    Nope see above.

    Scoring targets with hard cover or noshoots overlaping

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    9.1.5 Impenetrable – The scoring area of USPSA scoring targets and noshoots

    is deemed to be impenetrable:

    This tells me that the Non scoring boarder is not impeneterable.

    9.1.5.3 If a bullet strikes partially within the scoring area of a paper or

    metal target, and continues on to strike the scoring area of another

    paper target, the hit on the subsequent paper target will also

    count for score or penalty, as the case may be.

    This tells me that I can still get the highest hit my bullet touches.

    4.1.4.1 Cover provided to hide all or a portion of a target will be considered

    hard cover. When possible hard cover should not be simulated

    but constructed using impenetrable materials (see Rule

    2.1.3). Whole paper targets must not be used solely as hard

    cover.

    This tells me that trying to use a NS to make the area dissapear is a no no.

    4.2.4 When the scoring area of a paper target is to be partially hidden, course

    designers must simulate hard cover in one of the following ways:

    4.2.4.1 By actually hiding a portion of the target (see Rule 4.1.4.1).

    4.2.4.2 By physically cutting targets to remove the portion deemed to be

    hidden by hard cover. Such targets must be fitted with a

    replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full

    width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2).

    This explains how to do it by the rules.

    I got lucky!

    in What I Like

    Posted

    I enjoyed myself way too much when I did that kind of work. My first boss had to remind me not to act so happy. I was out once and had been trying to catch this one couple at home to get the furniture back. I got a call from a neighbor of theirs that they had just backed a Uhaul up to the house and looked like they were moving. I headed right over and had to repo a house full of stuff, dinning room set, bedroom set etc. I had to get it in one trip and only had a short bed F150 to do it with. I looked like the Beverly Hillbillys on the way back to the store. Man I'm glad I switched lines of work most days.

    Scoring targets with hard cover or noshoots overlaping

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    We could agree as MD's that we simply will not use this type of an array. Maybe that could help NROI to realize that the ruling made things worse and we can get a clearer rule in a future writting of the rule book. Just a thought.

    That is certainly an option you have as an MD. Would you exclude the classifiers that use this setup as well?

    Yes I will, since in my opinion an accurate score might not be obtained.

    Scoring targets with hard cover or noshoots overlaping

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    I guess I am an example of a block headed kraut. The reason I can't find a rule that says what we are arguing about is because the rule is being changed or redefined. There are a lot of the new rules that I don't understand the reasoning of but they were changed and my RO class told me how I should apply them. I think this is one of those cases were a ruling/decision has been made that is going to have to be looked at by the suprene court i.e, board of directors. This problem is easily corrected - Don't shoot the no-shoot. I don't remember there being this much rassle with the change from a max of two hits on a no shoot counting to you hit it so count everything.

    If the redefination as approved by the BOD can be written pointedly enough to only apply to an overlaying target then is that something that can be accepted?

    My analogy would be, is that if you were shooting at someone and only tore their shirt should that be counted as a hit or do you have to break the skin for it to count as a hit. I am just a piece of clay with a timer that is shaped by a ruling body.

    I can and will accept anything that is inthe rule book. I just have a hard time following something that can not be supported in the written rules. That is the whole point of this discussion, what is it based on that can be supported by the current rule book. Not by a ruling, but the actual rule.

    The two NS thing was a non issue because it basically put things back to how they should have stayed 2 rulebooks back. When I started this if you shot them you earned them, then we went to the 2 max, now back to how it should be. The issue also never had a ruling that made the enforcement different than the book, so no big debate there.

    The attitudes our young folks have these days

    in What I Hate

    Posted

    Fran - I was brought up the same way. My father was a career Marine and part of that time he spent as Drill Instructor.

    Had I mouthed off to an an adult or a teacher like Fireant's student did, I would probably not be here today. at least not with natural teeth.

    Funny, my dad was the Army version of yours. This case was really just a mild one compared to my usual days, it just happened on a bad day. You know I actually had a parent file a complaint that I was being racist once beacuse I made the students say yes or no instead of yah and nah, or a shrug of the shoulders. They said I was being culturally biased :surprise: WTF!

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