[Experience with 627 converted to 9mm]

To answer Jess's question. With the original supers and the second run, they used the .3575-.358 barrels, which are either 1-16 twist, or I believe I was told 1 18 1/2.

For any decent match grade accuracy with the supers you needed to run a .357-.358 bullet heavier than 125grs. I know some one will post here that their gun will shoot microscopic groups in factory form.... and that is cool!, but not the norm. Most every person that set them up for competition had to put an aftermarket barrel on for match grade accuracy. I never tried 9mm in my gun, but I sold it to Mike Carmoney, and I know he posted his results on the forum. It is out there if you search. The accuracy was not there as some of us like, but it would work fine.

I couldn't find a super at the time, and started working with the short colt in my 8 shot .357s, as I had several.

I found that the best projectiles were the longer bearing surface bullets, 147 and above.

With the short colt you can use 9mm data for loads, and have my best accuracy with 150gr and above weight bullets. I also taylor throat my barrels, but some don't like that. To each their own. I load a 170gr billy bullet that stays in the x ring at 50yds for ICORE standards in a standard full length 357 cylinder, I don't remember if I tried it in the short colt cylinder or not....

Once you get past buying the brass, which lasts forever, and buying some Hearthco moon clips, it is a fun proposition, and I never needed a super after that....

Hope this helps....

DougC

Doug,

When I tried 130 gr. Rainiers in my 38 Suoper 627 the accutracy was somewhat discouraging - best I could get was 2 inch groups at 50 ft. With the 147 gr. Berry's 9mm bullet those group sizes shrunmk to less than 1 inch. I also used some 9mm 124 gr. Montana Gold JHP's which gavew 1 inch groups at 50 ft. Personally I like the feel of the 147 gr. Berry's and will stick with them.

[1911 Suggestions for Single Stack]

The option ion 1911's are enormous. It seems another manufacturer is announcing his version every few months. At one time the Dan Wesson 1911's were absolute bargains for the money in terms of $ for the quality - recently they have increased their price point. As usual you get what you pay for with the middle to high priced guns offering better parts, smoother triggers, and custom features such as checkering of the frame, etc.

[Experience with 627 converted to 9mm]

Some shooters have made the case for the wide availability of relatively inexpensive factory ammo in 9mm as a reason to convert the 627. Personally I wouild opt for a 627 in 38 Super. I have seen a number of shooters use the 38 Short Colt case which is basically a shortened 38 Special.

[Experience with 627 converted to 9mm]

Has anyone had any experience with a S&W 627 in 357 Magnum converted to 9mm Luger? I saw one at a USPSA match several years ago but as I remember the person was experiencing some difficulties with ejection of the moonclipped rounds. Any accufracy issues shooting a 9mm out of that long cylinder freebore?

[Nose dive jamb, STI Trojan 9mm]

I believe there is a fundamental problem with the geometry of the STI ramp.

MY SA 1911 Target 9mm functioned perfectly with all bullet shapes. The older Dan Wesson Pointman, without a ramped barrel, function sperfexctly using round nose FMJ's or plated with Metalform mags in either 9mm or 38 Super. The newer Dan Wesson PM-9, with ramped barrel, functions flawlessly with all bullet shapes but has a tight chamber and requires using the barel as case gauge - it also functions with 9mm and 38 Super metal form magazines but not with the 9mm SA cut variety. Both the PO18-9 and PO16-40 have been flawless performers.

In marked contrast, my STI Trojan, albeit in 40 S&W, has been temperemental at best. It works well with a particular load and a short time later provides virtually 100% nose dives from slidelock with the same ammo and magazines. I need to do a few more experiments along the lines suggested earlier.

[STI TRojan 40S&W - how to make it run]

I orderred the EGW high mag catch. I hope it solves the nose diving issue.

[Tactical Solutions 1911 .22LR Conversion]

I have used both the Metalform and Kimber plastic mags with my Tactical Solutions 22 conversion unit.

[CR Speed vs Arredondo for PO16-40]

Has anyone had direct experience using both the CR Speed and Arredondo speed holsters for the wide bodied Para Ordnance pistols ? If so which do you prefer and why. Your help would be sincerely appreciated.

[Which CDNN Metalform 9mm 1911 mag to get?]

SWhen I used a SA 1911 9mm Target it preferred the mags with the SA configuration. My old Dan Wesson Pointman in 9omm uses any of the 9mm &n 38 Super Metalform magazinwes while my newer Dan Wesson PM-9 uses all the Metalform 9mm & 38 Super magazines with the exception of the SS with the SA configuration.

[Federal vs CCI primers, MG vs Berry's Bullets]

The Berry's 147 gr. 9mm bullet in 38 Super revolvers produces nice tight 1 inch groups at 25 yards at velocities between 820 and 920 fps using either WST, W-231 or Titegroup.

[Federal vs CCI primers, MG vs Berry's Bullets]

I am a member of a local shooting club and we are getting ready to make a buy on primers and bullets. The prices are very good and especially on CCI SP primers & Berry's bullets. I have always used Federal but the price difference between CCI and Federal is about $4 per thousand. Any reason to stick with Federal for the extra $4/K?

I shoot mostly 9mm and have been using MG 147grn. The club is offering Berry's 147grn RN for $80 less per thousand than what I am paying for MG. Any thoughts?

I use Federal primers for all my lightly sprung revolvers. However for my semi auto I normally use Winchester but have also used both Remington and CCI. I shoot a lot of Berry's 147 gr. 9mm in my 38 Super revolver loads at ca 900 fps. I prefer the jacketed bullets in the 9mm (124 gr.) although at the 900fps velocity level the Berry's 147 gr. should do well.

[Reloading: Single stage a waste?]

I would opt for a Dillon 550. I can easilly crank out 500 rounds in 2 hours total time including any sorting and boxing.

[Moonclip Cleaning]

I wipe my mooonclips off with Hoppes#9 after the match. That gets rid of the accumulated grime.

[38 Special/Short Colt Starline Brass and Hearthco moonclips]

Winchester brass and nickel plated cases work well in my Ranch Products moonclips.

[C--More STS vs Docter]

I searched and found some info but not a direct comparison of the C-More STS vs Docter.

[C--More STS vs Docter]

How does the C-More STS reflex sight compare in terms of durability with the Docter reflex sight?

[Triple K Magazines for Para P16]

I tried the MecGar mags in both 9mm and 40 S&W. They feed reliably - unfortunately they do not lock the slide back after firing the last round.

[STI TRojan 40S&W - how to make it run]

RH45,

Thanks for reminding me to try the 45ACP magazines.

[Can I Put a Full Length Sizer Die on 550b?]

I onlyuse a Lee U die for cases loaded the 4th time. Normally I use the Dilon die for 1X to 3X fired cases. I recently purchased a Dan Wesson PM-9 and experienced a few failures to chamber. The problem was solved by using the barrel as a case gauge.

[S&W 3274]

The only holster I have found for the S&W327PC JM is the Hoeppner & Schumann Speed Sec holster sold by Competitive Edge Dynamics. That holster will fit any S&W revolver, K, L or N frame.

[STI TRojan 40S&W - how to make it run]

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I'll try the longer load and the high mag catch. I am currently loading a 165 gr. JHP to 1.135" and it seemed to function perfectly for a while but recently I have experienced problems. The same loads work flawlessly in my PO16-40.

[Corn Cob Ok Cleaner]

I only use crushed walnut for the very small 32 H&R case. For 9mm through 45ACP I use ground corn cob from the pet supply store. Once in a while I will get a piece of corn cob stuck in a 9mm or 38 Special case but it is readilly removed before depriming.

[SA 1911 Loaded Target 9mm]

Vigilante,

My expereince with the SA Loaded 1911 Target in was entirelydifferent. My gun would function reliably with round nose or JHP but I could not get any better grouops than 4+ inches at 50 ft - that was after two trips to the factory I finally sold the SA and re[placed it with aDan Wesson PM-9 which is equally reliable but provides nice tight one inch ten shot groups at 50 ft.

[STI TRojan 40S&W - how to make it run]

When my STI Trojan in 40 S&W runs it performs well but getting it to load reliably from a full magazine with the slide locked back has been iffy. Has anyone found the secret to reliable reloads?

[Berrys 45 Cal 185 gr Hollow Base Round Nose bullets]

Ghe Berry;s 185 rgHB bullet has the same profile as the 230 gr. with less weight.