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Haha, trapped!
"...carry it from the trunk of your car..."
So, well, just to have the option, I will follow you and go with the 24" HB.
And if I realize in some years, that I never will go above 800m, and am missing a tad of accuracy, I still can take my jigsaw and shorten it roundabout 10" (more or less).
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Thanks guys, well, like I said, I´m having a 20" BB AR15, which shoots better than me.
So I wanted to upgrade, to be able to shoot further out, and yes, only paper punching as long I can buy my meat from the supermarket.
Nothing against hunting, my German surname is "Hunter", so my forefathers will have done this for aliving.
But over here it is expensive to hunt and I like to shoot, like the BUMM and the technical aspect and the competition and....
Best bang for the buck is HOWA over here.
With a MDT LSS system it gets even cheaper than with a better HOWA system.
I´m having some AR butt stocks and pistol grips on hands, as I´m having 12x scope (Hawke) and some mounting rings here (just to start off).
And I like to have the magazine option, which is possible in 223 or 308 with HOWA and the LSS.
Other calibers from HOWA even have only Standard barrels, so.
Having a very good 223 (Schmeisser Ultra Match) and wanting to go further out, lead me to the 308.
That´s just my way of "my finding" a precision rifle on a budget.
But like I said, I can shoot 300m when I´m driving two hours.
To shoot further out, I have to leave country (Switzerland or Poland f.e.), where are long range competitions, too.
One shooting buddy of me is having a Haenel RS8, another one is searching around for something close to that, we are planning to do long range just for the heck of it in the future.
("Long range" means in this case 800m+)
You can only shoot on officially approved ranges over here (what means, that no bullet can leave the range, put simply).
Without the military ones, they end at 300m over here.
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No gentlemen, like I said, I will not get into serious long range shooting.
96% on 100m, 3,8% on 300m and then there will be those 0,2% trying to do what is possible with my rifle.
And if I then don´t reach the 1000m, 800m will be fine I think.
Thanks for all your input, I hear ya very well.
Btw.:
I´ve heard from the 6,5 Creedmoor, but never saw one over here.
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Another question for you guys.
How dead on are those bullet drop calculators?
I´m having QL and might use the Hornady´s or something.
If I know the V0, the BC and the weight, how reliable will such a calculator give me my bullet drop over several distances?
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Thanks Graham Smith, Tonythetiger, dkynoch, and all the others, for sharing your experiences with a noob like me.
I don´t know if I ever will be able to shoot those 1000m, but wanted to have the rifle for it, if it ever happens.
The ammo over here is unfortunately much more pricey than it is in the USA.
So, loading the 308 can be cheaper than buying match ammo, of course depending on the price of the bullet.
It is easy to shoot 100m over here, a bit harder (have gun, will travel) to shoot 300m, but there is no range beyond 300, so I have to leave country to do that.
Anyway some friends of mine and me want to go for it, it is more or less a "future project".
But if so, I wanted to be able to do with my own rifle.
Well, I´m cloven in this, but I think if I can´t do the 1000, I will do the 800 or so.
More precise on those distances, which I´m shooting regularly (100-300m) and more handy, sounds good to me so.
On the other hand, I can do 600m with my AR 15 (20" BB), so the 308 won´t be a big gain?
Oh man.
I have to think about this for a while, to become clear what I want.
But you guys helped me to have the knowledge to make my decision.
Thanks a lot for that!!!
(Humm, or should I buy a 24" and shorten it piece after piece....
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Thanks Tonythetiger,
that´s absolute fabulous, never heard about Todd and his skills.
I know I will get crucified in the long range forums over here, but for the heck of it, I will give it a shot.
Awesome stuff!
@dyknoch,
like Tony says, it is more a all purpose weapon, mainly shot at distances at 100m, sometimes 300m and in the future anytime (so I´m hoping) 1000m.
After reading the stuff from Tony, I will go with the 20", if it doesn´t work then, you were right and I was an idiot.
But hey, I am a reloader, absolutely sir.
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Todd Hodnett has proven that you can shoot over a mile with a 16" barrel 308. I'm not saying this is typical, I'm just saying that with a good dose of skill and some rocket science the barrel length debate is kind of a moot point. The specifics of the load you shoot will have a far greater effect on your ability to shoot long range than the velocity lost/gained by a few inches of barrel. So my simplest answer to your question is that I would shoot a 20" gun exactly as far as I'd shoot a 24", I'd just have to dial more elevation and probably more windage correction. Which one I would buy would be entirely based on if I wanted a portable handy rifle or a dedicated prone gun.
I´m a reloader and now you have my full attention!
Could you tell me more about that?
What I´ve learned is, that you have to use a slower powder and a longer barrel, to get the bullet accelerated as long (and fast) as possible.
Of course it is possible to become a good velocity in a shorter barrel, but then you have to use a pretty fast powder and that results in raising pressures.
So far what I know.
Can I read about this trial with the 16" barrel from Todd Hodnett anywhere?
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Hello everybody,
I´m a pistol guy, but do want a budget rifle for having some fun.
For a good bang for the buck, I decided to go with the HOWA 1500 system.
To hold the ammo costs down, I want a 308 (and to be able to use a magazine
).HOWA has two heavy barrel systems in 308, a 20 and a 24" system.
Which one would you use, and how far can someone shoot with the 308 in a 20" barrel?
Hope you guys can give me some infos.
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Yes!
Ludde nailed it!!!
The spring (8) was above, not under the trigger bar!
So simple!
Ludde, getcha a beer man!
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There is a spring wire under the trigger bar?
Do you mean the sear spring?
How is this connected with the trigger bar?
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I´m having a trigger problem with my Tactical Sport.
The trigger bar doesn´t connect with the disco (trigger unit in the back).
The trigger bar is lose somehow, it "hangs down" a bit.
If I´m pulling it up a tad from inside, it fits the disco and I can brake one "shot", after that it is lose again.
How can I fix that?
I want to start on the German Steel Challenge tomorrow, so I´m begging for help.
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The rule of FORS
Front Opposite
Rear Same
Oh, that´s a good one!
Ok, guys, came to the same result, but wasn´t sure enough to order one....
Thanks a lot!
Will measure now, and yes, Dawson will get some work.
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Hello everybody,
I´m having an adjustable rear sight and have to use it on the lowest setting to shoot slightly under my aiming point.
No chance to srew the rear sight any deeper.
So I want to change the heighth of my front sight, to be able to screw my rear sight "UP".
What kind of front sight do I need now, a smaller or a bigger one?
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i use an 11# recoil spring when shooting a 147gr bullet. the timing of the gun is good and it shoots very flat.
10lb recoil spring with 147gr. bullets with 129PF, shoots very softly.
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Welldone, how it looks like...
...but yeah, everybody will see that the trunk can be opened easily.
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CZ 9mm loads
in CZ
Siryessir,
I´m shooting bullets above the 140gr.-line.
My prefered bought bullet is the ARES 152gr. .356".
My selfmade is a MP Molds 147gr. RNFPBB (dropping out with 145gr.), coated and then sized around .3575".
CZ barrels are wide, having measured three Shadows and one TS now.
You are getting the PF easily.
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Humm,
Dillon told me, I should adjust the case insert slide...
...that makes me a bit upset, to be honest.
Well, I think the tips of G19 are the way to go and will follow them soon.
Either it´s the shellplate, or it is the toolhead, in my opinion.
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Exactly the same problem here with the 9mm only!
Happy that I´ve found this thread.
Will give Dillon a call.
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Thanks again razorfish,
just did some cleaning work, spended an oil drop to the disc pin and put it all together again.
There was really some grit underneath, which was a mixture of oil and some powder.
I did set up the machine for the 9mm Luger and never changed anything.
Now I understand the function of the primer system and think, the way how the primer indexing arm is installed and works, is a bit on the weak side.
If the arm, the pin washer or anything else bends a bit or get´s loose somehow, it will cause problems.
Me, coming from the 550, hadn´t screwed the shellplate all the way down, so that if I have seated a primer it always was coming up a bit.
Maybe this caused to something unwanted.
Will see at the next loading session, empty everything runs fine now.
If not, I have spare part packs here (including the primer disc indexing arm).
Cheers from Germany,
Jay
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I´m using DCL as well.
Nearby Freiburg.
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Great info here, I appreciate this very much, gentlemen!
What would you think, should I oil those parts after cleaning or might this be a bad idea?
) with brushes, all day long for all my guns.
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What I know, HOWA is making the Weatherby´s.