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  1. Actually I was kind of jesting about big/fat/strong guys. We don't get an advantage very often. But for the average good shooter, considering different shooting positions it is slower to recover with a 308. It also depends on how big of a MOA we are trying to keep the gun shooting in. What I guess we should be asking is who are we trying to attract to our sport with the Heavy metal class? Is it a shooter who would not normal go to ipsc match because of all the specialized equipment? So if we are after what your typical hunter may have in his closet. 12 gauge pump or auto 5 shot, a bolt or semi-auto rifle in 308 or larger with mag capacity of 5 or less, some sort of pistol, which may be old slab side 45 or something fancier like a sig or HP. So if we create a class for this group will they become a regular shooter? Or are we trying to equalize things so a major rifle and pistol are competitive against the small caliber go fast weapons that have developed due to the current scoring system weighting. Actually I think they are two different groups, so should we have the hunter class, 5 shot 12/10 gauge with no optics or comps, rifle with no comps 5 shot capacity, pistol 45 acp. Heavy metal, which is just 308 or larger, 12/10 gauge, 45ACP then have the standard limited, tactical and open classes. We are getting ready to start a new 3gun monthly match and right now I'm leaning to having heavy-metal and hunter classes. Run them for awhile and keep polling the shooters to see if they like it. To me the object is to get more people out shooting! Thanks for reading
  2. The problem is that the 308 class with the existing scoring system is not competitive with the 223 in most stages because speed predominates. Now if most of shots were 100 yards plus then the difference fades. Maybe if we gave A major 6 points instead of 5 but Ez Score won't allow this. So what we are really talking about is who can handle recoil. Fat/Big/large/strong men may have the advantage then. I don't think saying single stack is a good Idea either what about Para 45's. What we really need is a power factor for each gun to make he-man/heavy metal. So sort of a comprimise is 308 or greater, 12 gauge no comps no speedloaders, 45 loaded to major. So now the question is to do we have open, tactical, limited heavyMetal classes? What about a limited 40 where does it fall? What I really think we need it the ability to change the score weighings inside of EZ score. Then we could play around with different values and see what it takes to even things out. You know a beta test.
  3. Thanks for the quick reply. I'll check out the palm section. Did the users have any trouble adapting to the palm from paper? Access to a multiuser data base would be nice.
  4. EZ score lacks in several area's. Here is what I would like to see added for three gun. For mixed gun stages, designate the primary gun, and secondaries. Keep track of all guns stats, minor, major, open, limited tactical, production. Designate which targets are shot with what gun on score sheets, plus round required for stage. Ability to change score point values for ABCD areas, example for 308 i.e. major A6,B4,C4,D2. This would allow better weighting. Maybe even setup PF for points. Neutralize targets type targets, ie. one A major or Minor, etc. Access to the database to add fields, such as Alias, so we don't have to publish real names on web pages. Name databases so you can run multiple clubs. Future version should be able to use WiFi or Infrared to run scoring programs on Palms or Ipods that would upload to portable to have score available during the match and final immediately at the end of a match. Would to here other comments!
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