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I have a very good friend, he's taken formal instruction classes, he's been shooting for many years now. he's very safe and has a modern and consistent 2 hand grip, his stance is isosceles i don't think he's slapping the trigger, if so it's very slight? i know he's prepping the trigger and identifying the reset as we've been taught. he wears glasses but has no significant visual or neurological challenges per se.
his overall group size of 10 rounds fired off-hand standing at 12 yards, shooting several high quality pistols, routinely seem to run around 3.5 inches in width .
the problem that he's struggling with is that when he shoots it's almost like he ends up with 2 different groups on a single target from a single 10 round magazine load.....many of the shots will go to a single, rather consistent, point of aim.... and every couple of shots a single shot will end up an inch down and left of the major group.....after 10 rounds it looks like there are 2 distinct groups on the same target.
the total composite group size is not particularly bad....a few of the shots will routinely find the same hole.
I've closely watched him shoot for many years now, i don't observe a notable flinch or change in grip or any notable movement of the pistol. It's almost as though his sight picture has changed and then changes back all within the same 10 round magazine.
i hope this makes sense.
have other's seen this type of problem? any ideas on how to address it. thank you
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thank you, any preference?
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thanks.....hoping to see how the Overwatch compares to the Apex trigger. i'm pleased with the Overwatch trigger i have installed in my Glock and i've always been impressed with Mr. Lee's creations at Apex.
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Hi, I'm trying to increase the rapidity with which the trigger rebounds on my K frame S&W. Would anyone perhaps know the OD of the whole spring or the ID of the spring channel of the Rebound Slide Part? I don't have the original 18 lb to measure.
I'd sure appreciate it.
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wow, glad you're ok
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Really like NP3 by Robar, it's held up well, high lubricity and low friction. I've also have had great luck with CPII by CCR refinishing for the very same qualities. Both pistols have been used a lot.
(aesthetically i still prefer a deep gorgeous blue).
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Hi, wondering if there was a significantly improved option for the Q5 SF Pro? Really not in love with both the take up and break of the factory trigger. Thank you
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I've been reading many of the posts regarding red dot sights but would sure appreciate your insight/experience.
A dear friend just received a Walther PPQ Pro 5 Match SF. It's a very nice pistol but he's having a tough time with the sights. He's worked with an opthalmologist and the glasses he has are reportedly optimized as best they could.
The pistol already has the option for a red dot sight and so we thought perhaps that might further facilitate his ability to acquire an optimal sight picture. He did well with my old C-more sight.
Seems like there are several new models of red dot sights available and we're hoping to take advantage of the upcoming black friday sales. Wondering which red dot seems to work well with this pistol. Any preferences? thank you.
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thanks everyone....appreciate the helpful hints.
while perhaps unusual, it seems that this occurrence is unfortunately not unheard of.
need to learn more
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i understand and appreciate the aforementioned information...yet i wonder if one might not be able to do more to modify or improve the device so as to further minimize either the occurrence itself of the potential for damage and injury.
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Hi, first let me state that i'm not trying to speak ill of Dillon or any other company, just trying to learn......
i just heard that a good friend of mine suffered some injuries from a primer detonation...i guess many primers ignited/exploaded.
Thankfully i believe nothing too serious happened to his face etc.
I did a brief internet search and surprisingly there are many such descriptions.... some mention Federal Primers might be a consideration, some suggest an ill fitting .45 case/primer pocket relationship and some mention a dirty or an ill timed machine (Dillon 650, I believe).
I was wondering as there are multiple possible causes that might result in a primer detonation, is there perhaps a way of optimizing the machine to prevent this or perhaps is there a way or device one could add or modify to shield the blast away from the user? This of course in addition to proper eye protection, long sleeves, good ventilation etc.
Thanks
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As you have an identical pair....you might consider interchanging one part at a time and see if it makes a difference.
For example, trade barrels and see if it helps. If not then try changing recoil springs.
Perhaps that way you might narrow down or identify the problem.
Keep track of which parts belong to which pistol just in case.
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I love the 1911 platform in 9mm...absolutely a pleasure to use.
With respect to their customer service......while my 9mm 1911 is from a different company i do own a .45 RIA base model. It had a problem early on with the first round diving despite trying a wide variety of new magazines and ammunition types. I called their customer service help line. They were fantastic to work with and promptly afforded me a return authorization and a free shipping label. They fixed the problem quickly and well. If i recall correctly they even sent me an extra new magazine for my trouble. I was and remain very impressed.
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Appreciate all the aforementioned information. I too was very frustrated with the model 34 shooting left...something i never experienced before in a wide variety of other pistols.
I continually and cautiously moved the rear sight to accommodate this phenomenon and tried to accept the eccentric location of the rear sight.
Now, a few years later, the sight is pretty close back to center.
I didn't consciously alter my grip or trigger press, the only modification i made, which i doubt had much of any impact was installing a heavier/thicker (easier to engage) slide lock.
I have no idea what changed.... but it seems to shoot very well now?
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We took the 2 day handgun course. We too took advantage of a free certificate.
Our lead instructor was a blast....young but very experienced military with a fascinating portfolio of fairly recent deployments so he had a bunch of good stories to share.
He was very cool, asked us to try the Weaver stance and keep an open mind.... that said i kept drifting back to isosceles and it really wasn't a big deal. A few times they suggested i try going back to Weaver and i did try.... It was kind on neat to try something different and new and i was able to shoot nice tight groups with both techniques. That said, I had absolutely no problem going back to isosceles, it just feels more natural to me now i guess.
Our class was a very mixed group of 24 persons with 3 instructors.... from couples, to one family with a very safe 13 year old girl, to a group of 30 something retired marines and a couple of professionals.
The most common platform was glock but there were a couple of sigs and one or two 1911s. 2 people used red dot sights, the rest used conventional sights. They're pretty strict about a 4 lb trigger pull which was tough for me as the only pistol i had that might work was a glock 34 so i used that. They had the armorer look at it as it had an aftermarket trigger but it passed their inspection quickly, not sure what they check for, someone said it was a drop test but the gun looked pristine so i don't imagine they really drop test it?
The first day was pretty slow for an experienced shooter, especially the first couple of hours as the course had to accommodate all types of experience levels. Not bad at all but as is always the case we all wanted to shoot... a lot. The second day was a blast, more shooting and we got to do the shooting house which was great fun. If total round count is important to you then we shot perhaps 200 rounds over the 2 days. Still somehow by the end of the second day we were a bit tired. i know it's hard to believe because 200 rounds doesn't sound like much but somehow it worked.
Most all recommended the skill builder class but you have to take the intro class first.
The grounds/facility is pretty nice, very big place. It was a very safe experience.
For first timers you have to sit through a few movies in a large auditorium that described safety, ccw issues and an awareness mindset.... 2 of the 4 movies were during lunch time so you watched while you ate which was painless. I'm not a huge fan of that part of the curriculum but i understand why they incorporate some of this information.... i'm told that during subsequent or more advanced level classes movies play less of a role.
We stayed at the Silverton casino about 50 minutes away, the hotel is attached to a Bass Pro shop. It was fine, clean and comfortable. You could stay at a small neighboring town about 30 minutes away as well. We brought a cooler with us and picked up a huge premade sandwich at the supermarket for $6 which made a fine lunch for the 2 of us along with some bottled water. They have cold water available all the time and the bathrooms were big and clean. Basically we got out of the hotel about 5:30 am, went to a Dunkin Donuts, picked up some coffee and a breakfast sandwich and drove to the facility....we still ended up a bit early but we'd never been there before and didn't want to take a chance of being late.
I was surprised how many families attended, lots of people brought their kids and they have a day care of some sort i'm told. Interestingly we met a couple of people we knew from elsewhere.
With an open mind and a free certificate i thought it was a nice experience and afforded us a pleasant time to bond with an old friend. I look forward to taking the skill builder class when i get a chance.
It's not a Bruce Gray class but still fun and worth it for us.
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Not sure of what is readily available where you live... and while i've not done this myself, i've read a good number of threads describing favorable results after degreasing and bead blasting using high temperature ceramic automotive engine paint....and still others describing using barbeque grill paint, though i'd probably prefer the former .
As a caveat, slide rails or areas of minimal tolerance or precise fitting like the firing pin/extractor tunnel etc. must be taped off prior to painting and heating or you'll have to reestablish fit in these regions later which might prove challenging.
Use very thin coats.
I've used home bluing salts with pretty nice results, perhaps not as beautiful as old time deep bluing but not too bad at all and has held up on my 1911 for quite a few years now. A close friend parkerized his pistol slide, said it wasn't too hard to do and it came out pretty nice as well. Some say that blueing isn't a great protective coating and perhaps they're correct but i live in a coastal region and have not had any problems with rusting. I do lightly coat the pistol after shooting and cleaning with a small piece of sheepskin moistened in commercially available grease (RIG).
These are all inexpensive options and if you're not happy with the results you could always go on with your already scheduled IonBond coating
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Sig definitely teaches modern technique.
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I've read a number of times people advocating changing out the Glock Slide Lock in an effort to improve the quality of fit and accuracy.
Is there any validity to this recommendation, and if so is there a preferred brand/model.
I fair rather competitively and accurately with a 1911.
I absolutely understand that the Glock 34 is not a bullseye pistol by design and while mine is fairly accurate, improving accuracy remains a desirable goal.
I've considered fitting a match Bar-Sto barrel to my Gen 3 model 34 and while perhaps the best option it remains quite expensive and somewhat out of my reach financially.
thank you
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Glock17open, thank you
OP thanks for posting and sharing.
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How interesting. I too have found myself chasing this issue, steadily adjusting the rear sight to accommodate.
Of note, i've not experienced this phenomenon with any other pistol of which i can recall. I shoot dead on with a Sig P226, a Sig 2009, a S&W model 52 and a myriad of 1911s.
This Glock 34 has proven to be a tougher platform for me to adapt to with respect to alignment. All in all I've been quite satisfied with stock function and accuracy. While i'm not a great fan of the quality of the trigger action or the grip angle. i've made my peace with them. I wonder if it's not these latter aspects which contribute to the phenomenon.
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I could use the Glock spacers if they're still avaiable. please PM me. thanks regardless
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Ranger Trace, I"m very grateful, thank you. I've sent you a PM
Sawdustnsteel, It's pretty cool that you make a lot of your own equipment, i must learn to be more self sufficient. I think they're important skills. I'll definitely read more about it however, at least right now at my stage and skill level i want to stay as safe as possible and not bugger up anything. Embarasingly, I don't even have a grinder. Perhaps in the future i'll try my hands at making something less complex like a pouch as you've recommended.
challenging problem shooting handgun, help appreciated
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the pistol he shoots best is a 9mm Mastershop Sig x5 (or 6, i can't recall). it shoots great, i've shot it many times, very nice small groups. i've seen him do the same thing with 1911s and several other pistols as well even a .22lr pistol. I'm quite confident it's not the platform. they're for the most part all standard adjustable sights. i think he's planning of purchasing a red dot sight in the coming months.