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Maybe this could help you? I took some pictures of my 650 tool head for 45 ACP this morning so you could get an idea for the positioning of the powder die:
Also, the primer seating problems are from not pushing the handle fully to the rear when trying to seat the primer.
Don't worry, we all started being new! In a few months you'll be cranking out rounds and not even giving anything a second thought!
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Are you sure your fail safe rod is in the powder measure correctly? (Left to right as you are looking at the machine)
If it's in wrong, it can cause all kinds of flair problems with the case and powder bar travel.
ETA: if all else fails, remove the die and turn to page 11 in your manual, and follow the instructions verbatim.
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Wipe it off with a patch and isopropyl alcohol. When it dries go over it with a dryer sheet to remove any static.
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That doesn't look too good. I can only imagine you tried cleaning it really well?
Is the die itself scratched or are there foreign objects embedded in the die?
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When I processed brass on my 650 I had the trimmer in station 3 and used a nail to replace the tool head pin. I turned down an oversized nail and cut it off so there was enough exposed to I could get it out with a pliers / multi tool.
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You guys that are putting weights on the top of your primer rods - did you ever stop and wonder what would happen if you had the whole primer magazine go off? I'm thankful I only ever saw pictures of the aftermath of a detonation. I don't think I'd want a case / bullet thrown on the top of the primer column.
Clean things up and get your press adjusted and there isn't a need for added weights.
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Make sure your safety rod is going through from the large part to the small part of the measure linkage.
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Try seating the bullet much deeper.The shoulder of the bullet should only be about .010"- .020" above the case mouth. This might well be the cause, if the shoulder of the bullet contacts the forcing cone.
I wholeheartedly agree with this! That bullet appears to be seated too far out.
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The newest 650 I bought was in 2011 from Brian. It had the gray ring. My oldest 650 is from the early 90s, it still has its original black ring. I haven't had a problem with either.
Now watch, today I'll reload and I'll break one or both of them!!!
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Retread, I was wondering if you had the swaging rod in? Yeah, I know it's not necessary for 45 ACP. I wonder if it would have helped catch the SP brass? Perhaps it would have bent the shell plate?
I'm glad you shared your story. I've been loading on Dillon machines since the mid to late 80s, but I've only been on my S1050 for a little over two years. When I'm loading .223, I always have the swaging rod in, even though I know the cases I'm using have already been swaged. With my luck, I'd have an unswaged case and would set the primer off. I'm just kind of paranoid about having a drawer changing experience like you did!
Once again, thanks for sharing your experience and reinforcing wearing safety glasses!
ETA: I just read freakshow's post - I guess he kind of covered that!
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I had the same problem with .223 and my 1050. I called Dillon and the guy at the help desk told me to take a few thousandths off the bottom of the die with a sander. I did and it works fine. No cam over and the cartridge fits in the go / no go gauge just like it should.
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I have a powder check die on all of my tool heads and just move the alarm itself to the head I'm using. I also purchased some extra powder check rods and I keep some of them set for my every day loads.
One thing I noticed, I've never had an over charge.
What I have had was a few grains (actual grains - not the measurement of mass) of media in a few 223 cases. Even though I have a universal decapping die in station one of my loading head, they were still in there.
When I was loading 223, I had a primer feed malfunction, and a primer was not seated. Of course that ball powder leaked right out the primer flash hole. The powder check alerted me to that too.
When I set the check rod, I have it so the activating button is nearly at the bottom of the cut out ( the > portion) of the check rod. I'm guessing that's why it picked up on those few grains of media. When powder goes out the flash hole it's pretty evident.
I do know this, visually it would have been very hard if not impossible to detect the cases with the media in when operating the press at normal speed. Which in my case, isn't that fast.
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Banging on the handle might not be a good idea. Never force anything while reloading.
Slow your reloading stroke down and see if you can find what's binding. I'm betting there's some junk under the shell plate or media in the shell plate where the cartridge rims go.
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I habitualy keep a pair of safety glasses beside each reloading press that I have.
When a pair gets scratched, I always pick up a new pair. Safety glasses are a lot cheaper than new eyes - and us reloaders appreciate economy!
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I am guessing he figured it out over the last week and a half, just not going to tell us.
It does remind me that I need to take an extra screw over to a buddy's house and leave it on the bench next to a press when I leave...
That's evil! I'll have to remember to do that to my buddy!
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Just a thought, you might want to consider reloading small primer 45 ACP brass. That way you won't have to switch over primer systems, you'll only have to stock up on one size primer and there's a lot of people out there that leave small primer 45 brass lay on the ground!
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Looking at it again, could it be the screw (13685) that holds in the carrier cap (11010)?
I'm kind of interested to see what it's from!
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Once you have your COL figured out for a particular bullet you can always measure from the top of the bullet seating stem to the top of the die and record it. The next time you load for that bullet just adjust accordingly.
As far as the powder charge goes, I never found it too bad to adjust for individual charges. If you wanted to you could buy another powder charge bar or measure the cavity in the charge bar for each charge weight you use.
Of course with measuring your die / powder bard for the COL and charge weight, things may not be perfect, but they will certainally get you in the ball park.
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Almost looks like one of the screws for the powder alarm. However, I'm sure if one of those would be missing you would have noticed it.
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I'm glad to hear the damage sounds minimal and you weren't hurt.
I've been very fortunate. I've been reloading since I was 11 or 12 (1976 or 77?) and loading with Dillon machines since the late 80s early 90s and haven't had a primer go off. I hope I never do!
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I have mine adjusted to insert the case at the point the shell plate is fully advanced. When it's adjusted like this, there is less of a chance for powder spillage and much smoother rotation of the cases in the shell plate.
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I also have a 30SF that will not feed SWCs. I believe part of the problem is, if you compare the rear frame rail height to other 45 ACP Glocks, the 30's rails are set in the frame lower.
On the left are 2 G21s that reliably feed SWCs, the pistol on the right is ny 30 that will not feed SWCs.
Edit for auto correct
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The only problems I ever had with priming on my S1050 was caused by my inexperience when I first got the machine.
It runs like water out of a hose now!
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No, there aren't any issues with it being crooked, but the reloader in me wants things to be right.
XL650 setup problem with powder drop/cartridge flare
in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
Posted · Edited by Henny
Hey Mike! Get out of my reloading room and put those primers down! ; )