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Kroil had absolutely no effect on the fouling. BH

Thanks TGR. I think I'm too ham fisted for this. I'll try the soaking and bore brush–in–a–drill route first. If it doesn't work, we'll see.

Here's the reply I got from Ray. I don't have any Hoppe's around (used to like the smell but now it makes me ill). I'll get some next week and give the overnight soaking method a try.

Thanks, I'll get in touch with Ray. I'll report back when I hear. Lou

They sure have. The center holes on the left and right sides are completely plugged. The holes on both ends on the left and right, are about half plugged and all three of the holes in the center of the comp are about 75% blocked. The deposits are pretty hard and don't yield to a plastic "digging tool" at all so I don't think it's powder residue. I've also tried with a steel dental pick but it ain't moving. I've seen the recommendations to use a Dremel with a round ball but hesitate on that because I don't want to deform the holes in the comp, especially now that I know that the comp is aluminum. Mostly I've fired the recommended CCI Mini mags. I've shot about 2,000 – 3,000 rounds.

I just read several threads in the archives about cleaning compensators. None of them addressed this comp so I thought I'd ask here about methods that others are using. Obviously suggestions to use FMJ bullets to shoot it loose aren't going to work here. The barrel is SS but I don't know what the comp is made of so I'm hesitant to try the suggestion about 50-50 vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. Suggestions please? Lou

Never had any trouble with a red dot sight but then I've only used a C–more. Reading the screen of my CED timer is all but impossible. When I know I'm going to use it, I trade my polarized lenses for un–polarized ones. But I prefer the polarized lenses for just about everything else, driving, sailing, biking, etc. Lou

On one of his recent shows his team stops two guys, one of whom pitched some dope when they saw the police. Steven is patting down one of the guys on the hood of his minivan (minivan???) and he comes up with a single barrel 12 ga that the guy had concealed under his too-large gangsta pants. Steven say something like "Hey look at this" as he holds the gun up for the other cops and the cameras. He struts away from the crook, turning his back on him. He looks like a proud puppy who has just found a bone! The crook is not contained but it's OK because they NEVER carry more than one gun! When he did this, my 15 year old daughter shouted, "What are you doing!" referring to the fact that he was turning his back on this crook. If she knows better, how come Steven does not? Lou

After being refilled a few times the "self–sealing" feature of the 1lb bottles doesn't work so well any more. Sometimes it takes ten refills, sometimes only three. You can't tell when it's going to stop working. Besides losing all the propane that's it's been filled with, there's the little nuisance of all that propane running around loose. Hopefully it's not near a flame or spark and can just drain away harmlessly. Then all you've lost is the savings that was gained by refilling the bottle. Lou

Range Report I went to the range earlier this week and found that there was still some contact between the slide rails and the barrel. Took some more metal off but still had problems with failures to extract and failures to fire. I sent off to Brownells for some parts, a recoil spring, a mainspring, an extractor spring, a firing pin spring and an extractor. The old recoil spring was about an inch shorter than the new one and definitely felt tired. I replaced the old extractor with the new one but it was binding in the slot. It was about 0.0045" thicker than the old one so I thinned it down with some sandpaper on a flat surface and then polished it. Then I reblued and replaced it. It moved freely in the slot then. I put in all the new springs and went to the range. Just got home a few mins ago. The gun still does not like anything from the list with the exception of CCI Mini Mag but it functions very reliably with that. FINALLY. Thanks for the help Bart and a few others who made suggestions. Lou

Checked this. The top of the bolt is making good contact with the face of the barrel. In fact it's peening it a bit. There was about .008" of light visible under the extractor between the breech face and the barrel. There was some contact between the front edges of the slide rails and the shoulders of the "underlug" of the barrel. I removed metal until that contact didn't exist any longer. I can now put a piece of paper between the slide rails and that underlug and pull it out without any grabbing of the paper. But there's still about .002" of light visible between the breech face and the barrel. The face of the bolt protrudes from the slide about .009" so I don't think I can completely eliminate that gap. I'll get to the range next week and report back if this fixed the problem. Thanks for the assist.

Thanks Jaxshooter. This does not appear to be the problem as when I do get good ignition, the firing pin strikes are centered on the cartridge rim, and run vertically. They look identical to the strikes when the original barrel is in use. Lou

I've shot about 1,000 rounds through my 41 since putting the Bully barrel on. I'm having massive reliability problems. I can't get through more than a couple of magazines without a problem except right after a thorough cleaning. Then it only lasts about 100 rounds before the malf's start. I'm about even with failures to fire from what look like light primer strikes and failures to extract. Occasionally there's a stovepipe (where the extracted round fails to clear the breech) (Limp wristing? LOL) I've checked the extractor using THIS METHOD and it passes the test. Before my last outing I stripped the slide and cleaned the top end thoroughly. It didn't make any difference. Here's a list of ammo I've tried: Some were suggested by people here and some as recommended by some shooters locally. Remington Bulk (40 gr) CCI SV (Standard Velocity) (40 gr) CCI Mini Max (36 gr) American Eagle HV HP (38 gr) RWS Subsonic HP (40 gr) Lapua Subsonic (can't recall the bullet weight – it wouldn't cycle the action – turned the gun into a single shot) A couple of others that escape me at the moment There was not a significant difference in reliability between any of them. I keep the gun lubricated. It's most reliable right after being scrupulously cleaned but that lasts for less than 100 rounds, not enough to get through a SC match. I'm seeing some indication of contact between the bottom of the barrel and the top of the "crossbar" that joins the two side of the slide rails at the front of the slide. The bottom of the barrel is becoming "polished." There was a slight bit of that with the old barrel – not as much with the Bully but a bit. I bought the gun new in the early 1980s, it was made in 1981 and was shot moderately back then. I seem to recall some reliability problems then (the same kind as now) and a few trips to S&W that worked them out. It's been a safe queen since then. I'm thinking that the springs might be a bit tired; especially the mainspring, since it sat for quite some time with the hammer cocked. I'm thinking about getting a replacement set from Brownell's (I think they carry the Wolf set). I'm VERY satisfied with accuracy, transitions and all the rest, even for an old hack like me. But the malf's are making me very unhappy. Sometimes I can't even get through a magazine without a couple of them. Sorry for the length of this, I tried to anticipate any questions. Suggestions? Lou

Full results for all shooters (not just the top three for each category) are up on the Massey site now. http://masseyshoot.org You can go directly to the results here http://masseyshoot.org/results.pdf Photos are also available. Proceeds from sales of the photos also go the family. You can go directly to the photos here http://thefotohound.smugmug.com/

We had an excellent turnout, about 260 shooters. The event was taken on by two members of the Department, Officer Chris Horii and Reserve Officer Ted Yant. Over $18,000 was raised for the family. Right now only the top three shooters in each category are listed on the site, www.masseyshoot.org but as soon as Chris and Ted catch up with their neglected families all the shooters will be listed. There were at least three photogs covering the event. Photos will be posted on the site soon.

Two major prizes have been added. One is an H & K handgun and the other is a check for $500. That makes for 11 prizes and a maximum of only 1.000 tickets will be sold. The shoot is less than a week off and tickets for the Blaster Raffle, the major prizes, can be purchased on line at the website.

The Memorial Shoot is now about three weeks off. I wanted to add some info as to the raffles and the prizes. There are two raffles going on. Prizes total over $16,000 at this time. For The Blaster Raffle winners need not be present to win. Blaster Raffle tickets can be purchased ON LINE! Prizes are the guns as shown at the shoot website. Blaster Raffle tickets are $10 each and one is included with each registration to shoot the event. THERE WILL BE ONLY 1,000 Blaster Raffle tickets printed! Right now there are EIGHT guns in the Blaster Raffle! (We're trying to get more). As of this moment, each ticket stands an 8% chance of winning a gun! Guns to be raffled off include: • A J&J Armory AR–15 type rifle • A S&W Model 629 Light Hunter revolver in .44 mag • A S&W M&P40 semi–auto pistol • A Benelli Supernova, Comfortech 12ga shotgun • A Glock 9mm or .40 handgun • Two Ruger LCP's in .380 (two separate prizes) • A S&W Model 642 revolver w/ Safariland holster For the second raffle, The Event Raffle, winners must be present to win. Tickets can only be purchased at the event. At last notice there were 96 prizes for this raffle. Since the shoot will last for six hours, that's a prize being awarded about EVERY FOUR MINUTES! Prizes include: • Bates Boots • Jackets from Spiewak • Flashlights from Streamlight, Pelican, Maglite and Surefire • Knives from Emerson • Glasses from Oakley, • A Traser watch • Gloves from Damascus • Packs from S.O. Tech • A Leatherman Wave Multitool • A set (two) of Winchester bar stools • Rifles cases from Pelican • Bags from Maxpedition, 5.11 and Tactical Assault Gear • Computer cases from Pelican • A Pepperball Personal Defense System • An Uncle Mike's rifle case • A Glock range bag by Proforce • A signed copy of the book Under Force by William Queen Hope to see you there. Lou

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Nothing wrong with a little competition to improve the breed. Lou

Look in "options." Upper right corner of the post. [ON EDIT} Wow I go get a glass of water in the middle of writing a post and it's answered before I get back. LOL.

Just wanted to thank the forum members that have purchased raffle tickets and bump this back to the top. Remember, winners do not have to be present to win.

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I apologize in advance for my ignorance but do these barrels need fitting or are they a drop-in replacement for the stock barrel? Lou

In the early morning hours of January 28, 2009 Lt. Curt Massey of the Culver City (California) Police Department was killed in a fiery crash by a wrong way driver on the I-10 freeway. Curt gave much of his personal time to the department and the community, working with disadvantaged kids and for years, nearly single-handedly, ran the Santa Claus Sleigh that visited the streets in town in the weeks before Christmas giving children the opportunity to give their wish list to Santa. Curt is survived by his wife and three children. The Culver City Police Officers Assn. is sponsoring a shoot to honor Curt's memory and to help the family. This is a friendly competition that will take place at the Angeles Shooting range in Lake View Terrace, CA. Entry fees includes one raffle ticket. If you're out of the area you can still participate by purchasing raffle tickets or making a donation. Raffle winners need not be present to win. All proceeds go to the family. You can purchase entries and raffle tickets, or make a donation to the family from this website. http://www.masseyshoot.org/index.html Prizes have been donated by: Adamson Police Products Benelli Enterprises Emerson Knives Glock J & J Armory LA Police Gear Martin B. Retting Inc. Gun store Oakley Ruger Smith and Wesson Special Forces Gear Spiewak Uniforms Streamlight Surefire Tactical Assault Gear You can see the full prize list at the website. Hope to see you there! Lou