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I'm also shooting GSSF and am playing with several different bullet weights. One of them is a Precision Delta 147 tc, I am loading 4.5 power pistol or 3.9 Unique. They are both bulky powders that make it obvious if you have double charged and they are both relatively cheap. I like Power Pistol just a bit better because it meters better and is more consistent. Both will shoot less than 2" from my Glock 34.

I'm getting a few light hits on my primers right now also. I can feel the striker dragging in the channel liner. Either the spring cups or the spring itself. I have a lighter striker spring in it and I can see the spring cups wanting to separate. I imagine that the glock spring with it's double tight wind at the end holds the cup together better. When I put the glock spring back in the light hits go away but so does my "nicer" trigger pull .

Bought 10 of them from Military Gun Supply for $100. Fired 14000 rounds through my 9's last year. Used the Korean mags in practice/USPSA matches and the Glocks in GSSF matches. A little flashing on the Korean but no complaints otherwise. Springs seem weaker than glock but they work.

I used 4.0 grs. of Unique with the MG 147 seated to 1.130", Win Brass, my chrono said 903 fps average for 10 shots. When I was chronoed at area III last year they got 942 fps. I have also used this same combo with the Ranier 147 and Remington 147 (REM--a very accurate bullet!). The Ranier went 918 and the Rem went 923 fps.

No, just two drops of break-free. One last thought, what about the primers? I'm using CCI500 small pistol, would magnum small pistol or small rifle be more appropriate for this powder? I'm trying to stay minor so I didn't think the rifle primers were warranted. Don't think the temp was the issue with the pistol. It sat outside when I was loading mags inside the car. Thanks again

It has been cold in Nebraska for many months and I want to get out and start shooting. Toward that end I started to develop loads for my new open Glock 17 in 9mm. Initially I tried several powders and settled on HS-6. Here's what's going on, my first trip to the range is with the chrono. To keep the temp constant for the ammo I did this on a relatively sunny day and left the ammo on my front seat in the sun. I would retrieve 10 rounds for each string and chrono them. I selected the loads that had the most promise to shoot more extensively the next day. The next day I fired 30 rounds as soon as I was out of the car. Then I began helping my buddies with their stuff. Once I got bact to my shooting nothing would work. As a result of seeing the action not opening quite far enough to chamber the next round I increased the powder charge and made another trip to the range with the chrono following similar procedure as before. These again worked. Next day, ammo in the cold they didn't. Next day, took same ammo that was used before to an indoor shooting range and it worked like a champ. 50-70 rounds not a single jam. All the jams before had been where the empty wasn't ejected or wher the slide would strike the case midbody. The only thing done to the pistol was that I added two drops (glock armorer chastised me on the over use of oil) of oil to the slide and let them run down the rails. I did no other cleaning. Interestingly the second to last day in the cold I had 9 light loads using 5.5 Unique--117 LTC these worked while the 8.0 HS-6 loads with a 115 wouldn't function. What pistol powders are less sensitive to the cold????

AHA!!! I think the HS-6 is temperature sensitive. Here's what happened in a nut shell: 1. Went to range to chronograph, temps in teens to 20's. Kept each batch of ammo in the car until those 10 rounds were to be fired. It was kept in the sun on the front seat. Those that worked were noted and to be loaded and shot more extensively the next day. 2. Next day fired the best loads from previous day, in one case took 30 rounds and fired as soon as out of car, those worked. Few minutes later function problems began and didn't go away. 3. Developed more loads, hotter than before, results as #1 4. Repeat of #2 except nothing would function. Interestingly I had 9 rounds loaded with Unique and they worked. Went home examined pistol, noticed that I was running dryer than usual and placed 3 small drops of oil (GSSF armorer slapped my hand once!) on the rails and allowed it to run down the full length and on the barrel hood. 5. Went to an indoor range with ammo that didn't work previous day. Fired 50 rounds of all types and not a single jam. I think HS-6 must be temperature sensitive. What other powders are immune to temperatures?

Bobby, A couple of months ago I exchanged e-mails with you several times asking about products and at the time I was impressed with your personal attention to customer problems and questions. Reading your reply just reinforces my opinion that you care about customer satisfaction. My philosophy on troubleshooting something like this or in gunsmithing in general is "don't do anything that you can't undo, first". Then if that doesn't work try something more adventurous. Having said that, I haven't modified the comp and don't intend to. I selected your comp because I thought that it was the most aesthetically attractive of those on the market. Furthermore a gunsmith friend of mine pointed out the same thing that you did, increasing the slide speed would be the way to go. One way would be to, as he mentioned, lighten the slide, the other would be to shoot heavier loads. I am going to play with the loads first. I set up the 5 to glock stage the other day and managed to shoot 1 run in 4.27 seconds clean when it did run which was my fastest run ever. This was one of the heaviest loads that I tried to date (124 Zero JHP, 6.5 Grs. Hs-6). In looking at the major 9 loads I can go quite a bit higher. Right now I'm chomping at the bit to get to the range but this morning I heard the weather forecast and it is about 15 below with the windchill. Thank you for your generous offer to exchange the comp for the 3 port, I have this one lock-tited on so I will exhaust my other options first. Thanks again and this time I won't hesitate to e-mail you for some advice. Eric

I think the answer is going to be either shoot hotter loads than I intended to or go with a 3 port comp. The other day it ran 3 clips of 115 gr. Berry RN's with 7.4 grs. of HS-6 it worked! It must be on the ragged edge of reliability, it was about 28 degrees F and I shot those first. The longer I stayed in the cold the worse the reliability got. I hate to even suggest this but what would happen if I opened the last port (hole for the bullet) to 1/2", would that negate the effects of the 4th port. At least it would look better than if I lopped off the 4th port . I could always tell people I was shooting a 50 cal.

I think you're right, I wish I had gone with a 3 port comp instead of the 4. I got out in the cold to do some chrono work (cabin fever--really still to cold and snowy in Nebraska) and it does seem to run if I tweak the 115's to 1200 fps or more and the 124's to at least 1100 fps. I did bench it and my biggest groups came with the loads that were too light, I suspect that having to rack the slide is influencing the group size. When they did function, the first shot seemed to go someplace other than where the remaining group went. But this was with very few groups fired and it could be coincidence. The first shot low issue didn't seem to crop up but I was resting the front of the frame on the sandbags this time. Need to buy a new sandbag, the comp chewed this one up. I noticed a little roughness on the sjc mount from brass hitting it in the corner on the right side. In looking at Sevigny's pistol, he machined away this portion. That might be an idea. I was concerned about weakening the mount. I shoot my 9's at about 135-140pf so I'm thinking the 124's may be the way to go for me. I'll keep you posted on the progress. I hope the weather warms up so that I can really give this thing a thorough workout.

I too have bought into the story of the danger of lead in glocks and have purchased several aftermarket barrels for my glocks to shoot lead. However, I did one day want to practice with my 26 with a glock barrel and fired a few rounds through it with lead. Taking it home I cleaned it and noticed no fouling. During the next practice session I fired many more rounds through it and when I went to clean it I ran a single patch through and saw a bright spotless barrel. I cast my own bullets, in this case I used a heavy 153 gr. Lee RN for a 38 super. As I cast it, it comes out somewhat lighter. I use an 8:2 ratio of wheelweights to Linotype and then water quench it. I also used one of the soft lubes. This goes along with what the others have said, hard bullets, soft lubes will minimize leading. I do shoot 125's (Lee rn with the tiny grease groove) in my 34 with a lone wolf barrel using a hard lube, that barrel does require scrubbing after a session. But then again, I have never liked that bullet because of the minimal lube. As for the article about exploding glocks, I think you can prove anything you want to. Use the softest bullets and you have a worst case scenario. Take some common sense steps,be observant and you will be OK.

Thanks, 231 works really well for me also. HS-6 may be the answer.

I reload on a Dillon RL-450, I upgraded the primer system but I left the powder measure the same, in other words it is a manual drop. The problem is when I use fine grained ball powders like AA7 or H110 it will bind up and not move. This even occurs with some fine flake type powders but to a lesser degree. I have used my RCBS little dandy measure in place of the Dillon measure but you lose the adjustability and it isn't as convenient. I've recently started playing around with loads for my 9mm comped glock looking for a minor load. I see that HS-6 is quite popular but am wondering if it is one of those fine grained ball powders and would give me fits if I reloaded it. One of my all time favorite powders was 3n37 it metered so nicely! But it has become impossible to find around here. Is there anything out there that is similar in metering consistency? I've used 4756 and it meters almost as well as 3n37, Titegroup will "leak" through but not too bad, Unique is somewhat inconsistent.

Hmmm......My intention was to come up with a minor class open gun for GSSF, to get the gun to work I had to go to a 10 lb. spring. This may have something to do with it. I did however try a 12 lb. spring initially and only my loads for my Beretta carbine would work in it (6.7 3n37 with a 124 gr. bullet) but I think they too exhibited the same low first shot. That day however, I just wanted to see if it would work so I wasn't benching it. Correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm not getting complete lock-up, wouldn't the glock shoot high? I recall a problem I had with a short chambered barrel which would not seat the cartridge fully and I would get high flyers.

Usually I either pull the slide back and let go or when I was shooting off the bench I may have pressed the slide release when the slide was locked back. When I miss I usually shoot low and left so I may be pulling my shots but I usually know when I do so. Again it seems to only occur on the first shot. I will try benching the pistol on the frame (not dust cover ) and see what happens. It may be a week or so before I can get out again, we need my work schedule and the weather to cooperate, still quite a bit of snow on the ground. I'll report again when I have an opportunity to retest.

Just put together an open glock to use in GSSF matches and am in the beginning stages of load development when I noticed something odd. It appears that the first round out of the magazine shoots significantly lower than the rest. Sometimes as much as 6 inches at 25 yards. The pistol is a second generation M17, with an SJC C-more mount and a Carver 4 port comp with a Lone Wolf Barrel. What I notice upon examination of the pistol is that the front slide rails are quite loose. The rear, while there is some movement it is minimal. There also appears to be some slight fore and aft and side to side movement of the barrel. I believe I could slip a .006" feeler gauge between the breechface and the barrel, which is about .002 more than the factory barrel. Glocks seem to have a slight bend to the front dust cover which results in a slight upward pressure against the slide. This is not the case with this pistol. With two fingers I can grasp the top of the slide and bottom of the dust cover and exert very slight pressure and squeeze them together and they will separate when I let go. Furthermore when bringing the pistol from waist level to eyelevel quickly you can feel this movement. The movement is about .015-.020", would this result in a 4-6" shift in impact at 25 yards? As I mentioned I am in the beginning stages of load development, making only a couple of trips to the range and this has been cropping up too often, nearly with every group. Normally I would rest the front of the pistol on sandbags but because I noticed this looseness I have been only resting the butt of the pistol on the sandbags. It has demonstrated that it can shoot 2-4 inch groups with the first shot far below. This is pretty good for my shakey hands. Again my testing has only involved 6 groups off the bench and several standing groups to test function with nearly all showing the low flyer on the first shot. So, any ideas? Tighten the slide?, bend the dust cover upward to exert pressure? How? Incidently with a 10 lb spring factory loads are too light to run the gun. My reloads seem to indicate that I need at least 1200 FPS with a 115 grain bullet to obtain reliable function.

I have been contemplating getting a 1911 for Single Stack. I really like the Sig 1911 and have been keeping an eye out for them. Today I ran across a used 1911 XO with dust cover rail (must be an older model since SIG doesn't list it on their web site). I noticed that the USPSA rules state that the maximum weight of a 1911 is 43 oz. I went to Sigs web site and they list the weight as 41.6, but looking further they list the weight of non rail models as the same at 41.6 oz. I don't think this is correct. So, is the SIG 1911 (XO) with light rail legal for USPSA Single Stack division? Thank you.

Hi Shawn, I am an occasional viewer of the forums and signed up the other day when I was looking for information. As I was browsing I spotted your name that I recognized. In case you don't remember me I'm the tall guy who shoots at ENGC, usually with a witness. If you still don't remember me I'm the guy who gets names wrong and called you Shane . Once again I apologize, I still have to watch myself around Justin G. because for years I keep trying to call him Jason. Anyway, hope you get back from the sandbox (thanks for your work) in time for Area III. I saw the proposed stages the other day during 3 gun and it seemed like half of them had 32 rounds. Just want to wish you the best of luck. BTW check out the easternnebraskapracticalshooters web page and look at Ron's lip, his AR bit him. See ya EM

Did quite a bit of testing with the 9mm in a Beretta Storm. The most accurate load that I found was using AA-7 with a Hornady 124 XTP-HP. I had quite a bit of 3n37 on hand and it grouped nearly as well. One of these two powders should work equally as well with a 115. Incidently, one of the local clubs had something of a 3 gun match where you ended your stage with shooting 5 bowling pins head to head with someone. My AR just wasn't doing the job and I switched to my Storm. It was double elimination and although I lost, I did manage to knock down the pins. Did I mention the shooting was done at 200 yards with a Tasco pdp7 red dot?? I knew the approximate holdover from plinking around the day before. Both times I was able to knock them down with about 15-20 rounds. All my shots were very close.

I'm trying to settle on a bullet to reload in my 9mm Glocks. There are some criteria for my bullet: 1. It must of course give me the best accuracy possible. 2. It must function reliably. 3. I must be able to use it in my 38 supers. 4. I would prefer a 120-125 grain jacketed bullet. 5. It must be economical. I'm thinking about the Montana Gold bullets, either the 121 IFP, 124 FMJ, the 124 CMJ, or the 124 JHP. What are your experiences with regard to accuracy? I wouldn't rule out the 115's or the 147's. However, I would prefer the 124 over the 115 if I were to be loading for USPSA Major. Also, I once had a bad experience shooting 147's in a 9mm Carbine (stacked several bullets in the barrel ). I'm sure I can keep those separate if need be. A good friend of mine swears by Ranier 147 fp's in his Glock and they shot well for me too. What are your thoughts? Thanks.