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    170mm SingleStack Mags

    in 1911-style Pistols

    Posted

    By the way any idea how many rounds of super comp you could get in a 170 single stack mag? I have a friend with a single stack super race gun he built for the Sportmans Team Challenge. He had considered shooting the occasional uspsa match with.

    To shoot Open? Would be Minor in Limited.

    I was wondering how many 9mm would fit in a 170mm singlestack mag if someone wanted to shoot Limited Minor.

    virgina count penalties

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    on classifier 99-08 melody line, a shooter get up shoots 2 on T1 and then one on T2-T6 before the reload. . . .

    I did this on CM 06-06 Golden Bullet Standards.

    String 1 On signal, engage targets with one round each,

    perform a mandatory reload and re-engage each

    target with one round each strong hand only.

    String 2 On signal, engage each target with one round

    each, perform a mandatory reload and re-engage

    each target with one round each weak hand only.

    Starting right to left, I drew and put two rounds in T6, then remembered what I was supposed to be doing and put one round each into T5-T1. I was not trying to gain a competitive advantage. I'd been shooting two rounds per target on every other stage and when I got there, I just drew and fired two rounds at the first target, like I'd been doing, before my brain caught up. Reloaded and, SHO, put one round in each T1-T6.

    While making ready for my next string, the RO pointed out that I'd already earned a procedural for shooting two rounds at T6. He told me that if I finished the stage with too many holes in that target, that would be another procedural. "So I should burn one?" I asked.

    "I'm not telling you to miss," he says, "I'm just saying that if you have too many hits on that target, it'll be another penalty."

    So on string two, I drew and put one round in each T1-T5 and missed T6. ;)

    Reloaded. WHO put one round in each T6-T1.

    I fired 13 rounds in the first string, 7 before reloading and 6 after.

    String 2 I fired the correct number of shots.

    In the end, all the targets had the correct number of holes in them.

    I was given one procedural. Right or wrong, that's how it was scored.

    The "stacking" rule is there so people don't game the stage, not for a guy that forgets and puts two on one.

    George Jones recently posted the following on another thread that may be revelant...or at least interesting...to the discussion on this thread. Retained his bold for emphasis.

    "From the latest rules updates:

    10.2.2 A competitor who fails to comply with a procedure specified in the

    written stage briefing will incur one procedural penalty for each occurrence.

    However, if a competitor has gained a significant advantage during

    non-compliance, the competitor may be assessed one procedural

    penalty for each shot fired, instead of a single penalty (e.g. firing multiple

    shots contrary to the required position or stance). Do not apply

    two different penalties for the same offense, (e.g. not firing the required

    rounds in a Virginia Count stage; competitor gets a miss and no procedural)."

    Continuing the exploration...

    I disagree - and believe it to be one penalty. The reason being is the competitor IS already being penalized for failing to comply with WSB via 10.2.2. Requiring them to incur an extra shot penalty (and assuming they weren't smart enough to miss on the last shot, an extra hit penalty as well) is double penalty for one mistake.

    If that is the case, why do we even have an "extra shot" AND and "extra hit" penalty in the first place? The fundamental logic there would seem to be that the shooter is already penalized with either one...why do they get hit with another?

    Because they are two seperate events ... even if they happen to coincide within one shot.

    Extra Shot - You fired too many rounds.

    Extra Hit - You put too many rounds on a given target.

    Either one can exist independently of the other. The extra shot is determined while the competitor is shooting. The extra hit is determined while the RO is scoring.

    If some of the best in the business can't agree on how to handle this issue, there is clearly room for clarification.

    Single stack - why .40 S&W?

    in 1911-style Pistols

    Posted

    I like the feel better

    If you used the same bullet weight and loaded to the same velocity, would it feel any different? Just the different diameter bullet?

    (A heavy .40 and a light .45 could be the same weight, in the 180-210 grain range, right? My carry load for my compact .45 has 165 grain bullets.)

    170mm SingleStack Mags

    in 1911-style Pistols

    Posted · Edited by mgood

    Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

    Only got 10 or so loadings per spring?

    Combined with the 80% reliability, this isn't sounding like a lot of fun. I'd probably go for 10 round mags that are 99.9% reliable rather than deal with all that to get an extra 2-4 rounds per mag.

    Rules Trivia #2

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    I started shooting USPSA at a club in a state where open carry is legal. It's uncommon enough that most people don't know it's legal, but it is. I worked in a gun store, where I was more or less expected to carry openly. (Concealed carry is very common there as well. Much more so than open carry.) I left from and/or arrived at this range just about every day with a loaded pistol on my hip, coming from or going to work.

    When I noticed 2.5 in the rule book, I asked the club president / match director about a unloading/loading station. HE told me "Don't ask, don't tell." <_< That's how I was already handling it. I was looking for something more definitive (and USPSA legal). It's not discussed, but knowing the guys, I'd bet that the majority of them have a loaded gun in their vehicle while at the match. But that's seperate from their competition gun. My issue was that my carry gun was my competition gun and where I should change it over from one role to the other. Stop out in the street before I enter the range and unload. (Probably the most "legal" way in this situation, but also seems the silliest.)

    170mm SingleStack Mags

    in 1911-style Pistols

    Posted

    Appendix D2 -- Limited Division

    8. Maximum magazine length . . . 5.561" (141.25mm) or 6.742" (171.25mm) in single stack guns

    Say I wanted to shoot Limited with a singlestack 1911 (just hypothetical), does anyone make a ~170mm 1911 magazine?

    How many rounds of .40 could you get in there, 14 or so?

    I did search. Only found a couple mentions of this and no answers.

    Nationals rule knowledge

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    and why exactly would someone holster a hot gun during a COF? :unsure:

    I wasn't there and don't pretend to know the details of the situation.

    But as far as why someone would holster during COF, I haven't seen it, but have heard of stages that required someone to climb over something or carry something with two hands or do some other activity that needed two hands. They might holster, do whatever, then draw again.

    Long or short trigger?

    in 1911-style Pistols

    Posted

    I prefer the flat as it gives me the same trigger feel no matter where my finger is on the trigger face, and I usually pull it from the top half since my grip is high.

    I wondered if that was the purpose of the flat triggers, just never got around to asking.

    Don't Expect Classifier Scores This Week.

    in USPSA Classifier Scores

    Posted · Edited by mgood

    I don't see any logical reason why electronically submitted classifier scores cant be done almost instantly.

    I agree.

    why even bother printing out and mailing cards?

    if Sedro wants to save money, then just make the members who want a card print it out at home.

    I know I have never been asked for my card at a major match.

    i'd also be all for making the Front Sight periodical available as a .pdf....again to save on the printing and mailing costs.

    HQ could just send out a bulk email to active members telling them that the latest issue is available at such and such a link.

    I like my paper magazine. It's easier to read than a PDF, requires no electricity, gets laid out where non-shooting friends can see it and ask questions, and the articles are just the right length for bathroom reading. I can also swat the cat with it when he tries to check out primers or small parts on the work bench.

    You do have a point about the cards, though. Some states may accept them for CCW purposes (It was one of the options for proof of training Florida allowed when I got my first CCW), but I suppose you could just as easily print out a PDF.

    Yeah. I like having the card . . . but it's not like I need it for anything. Make it available online for those who want to print one and save a few bucks. I'm cool with that.

    PLEASE DO NOT go to pdf on the magazine! HUGE pet peeve of mine. Magazines are for reading when I'm not at my computer. Yeah, yeah, I could print it out. Then I have hundreds, or thousands of loose papers from all the crap I read getting mixed up. Buy notebooks to organize them? How 'bout subscribing to the freaking magazine? Make it available online. Then offer different rates for membership, with or without magazine, just like the associate membership deal now, but available to anyone, not just those living in a household that already receives one copy.

    That's like companies who have gone away from paper catalogs. :angry2: Or who have them, but it's hard to get them. It's much easier to flip back and forth in a paper catalog. Hold one page while looking at another and flip back and forth. Circle things, make notes, etc.

    I think that all clubs should just use the Palms and have the scores INSTANTLY go into the website, so by the time you reload your mags, grab your iphone and you'll see it.

    :cheers:

    I like it.

    Update weekly, or daily :ph34r: or hourly, whatever.

    For the people who send paper rather than submitting electronically, enter them once a month. Maybe someone in the club who owns a computer and wants quicker updates will volunteer to be their score person. :unsure:

    When I joined, I drove an extra couple hundred miles, each way, to shoot a match with another club to get that fourth classifier. . . . Then they didn't get the scores turned in until over a month after the match. <_< (They had the match results by the time we got the props put away. But it wasn't sent to USPSA.)

    I sent an email, in which I may have said some things that I should not have.

    uspsa

    in Miscellaneous BEginners

    Posted

    Scores that are turned in by the 10th of the month (and they told me on the phone that they usually get the ones turned in by the 12th or 13th) get posted on or about the 15th, depending on where weekends and holidays fall (or major matches).

    uspsa.org Website

    in USPSA/IPSC Shooting

    Posted · Edited by mgood

    Classifiers By Club?

    This, or a very similar question, may have been asked and answered.

    On the old site, there was a place where you could enter a club number and select unprocessed classifiers, processed classifiers, or classifiers deleted without processing. I think it was uspsa.org > Additional Content > Classifiers By Club.

    I'd use this to check to make sure the classifier(s) I'd recently shot had been uploaded. If not, I could begin harassing match directors about getting the stuff in on time. :P

    Without it, I guess I just have to wait until the monthly update to see if anything is missing and then ask them to make sure it gets in on the following month.

    I've been looking, but not finding.

    Is this one of the things left out of Phase I, hopefully to be added later? Or is it hidden somewhere I just haven't looked?

    EDIT: Never mind. I found the answer that I thought I'd seen before. Just couldn't find it until right after I posted, of course.

    The "Classifiers by club" feature is not on the web site (that's coming in a later phase).

    Buying reduced power factor ammo

    in Miscellaneous BEginners

    Posted

    I finally tried some, after saying I was going to for over a year.

    400 rounds of .40 Minor arrived on the brown truck this morning. B)

    I went out and shot up 50 rounds just to make sure they run my gun. No failures of any kind. It's freakin' awesome having .40 that kicks like a 9mm! I've been shooting Production with WWB, shooting major and being scored minor :angry:

    I would've liked to burn up a couple hundred to be absolutely sure, but I could only afford to buy 400 at this time, and the rest are for matches. Going to shoot Sunday, so we'll see how they do.

    You Know You're A Shooter When....

    in Humor

    Posted

    ... on Saturday at any given time before noon you can be found walking around the house in nothing but your loaded gunbelt.

    Not sure I need that picture in my head while eating breakfast. :sick:

    ... if you've run through the house in your underwear dryfiring on every door knob and light switch in the house.

    Ok, you got me. Done that.

    When you swap batteries on your hand drill like it was a mag change (with finger clearly off the trigger)

    Doesn't everybody? :huh:

    ... when you walk in your local gunshop and the guy at the counter immediately tells the customer he's attending to "Ask that guy".

    Yeah, I've been the gunstore clerk who said that more than once. We had a serious bow hunter who came in several times a week and sat there for a few hours at a time (not unusual among our regulars). Whenever anyone asked me an archery question, I got Tracy to help them. :P

    There were a few, very few, who we'd ask gun questions, usually in their narrow area of expertise. The owner of the store where I worked really was a walking encyclopedia of firearms, hunting, and reloading info, so we rarely had to look further than him when we wanted to know something.

    You look at your wife girlfriend/spouse after a couple glasses of wine and think, "Make Ready!"

    You're to drunk to perform and you slur, "Squib"

    You see a hottie when out with the spouse and think, "Forbidden Area"

    The wife catches you looking at said hottie and you think, "One procedural"

    You see some pole dancing honey and think, "Unsafe Gun Handling"

    You do pole dance honey and wakeup thinking, "DQ"

    :lol::roflol::roflol:

    Assuming there isn't too much obnoxious b/g soundtrack music, when you can tell what kind of handgun the actor/actress on TV is using by the sound of the racking slide. (Hint: Glocks are easy to identify).

    Or notice that the sound effects don't match the gun being used.

    You know you've been a gunwriter for too long when you're going through back issues of gun magazines, you come across an article title in the table of contents, you think, "Oh, that looks interesting. I'll bet I'd enjoy reading that," then you look at the byline and realize you wrote it 15 years ago. And can't even remember having written it. Then you read the article and it's all new to you - it's like reading someone else's writing.

    LOL

    I've done similar on musical equipment forums. Looking for an answer to a question, do a search, and turn up a 5-year-old post where I explained it in detail to someone else and don't remember. :blink:

    8. at least once, you forget to bring your rig or gun or shooting shooes or ammo at a match.

    I thought I forgot my mags once, at an out of town match. Found them pre-loaded and stashed in the console of my truck rather than in my shooting bag. Not sure why I put them there, but at least I found them. Last match I went to, I forgot my ear protection, but found extra in my truck.

    9mm Major Factory Ammo

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    This might actually be a case to shoot a .40 Open gun. WWB at the WallyWorld and shoot the match...

    I got really tired of WWB from Wally World, in my Production gun. Shooting major and being scored minor really blows. :angry2:

    I just ordered some minor .40 from Atlanta Arms & Ammo. Expecting it Friday. :D

    (I know this has nothing to do with open guns. I just couldn't resist chiming in there.)

    Gun shop experts and their quotes

    in Humor

    Posted

    My nephew got a 1911 for his birthday a few years ago. He rounds up Uncle Sam and away we go to Casper to find a holster and some mags. We're in one of the big sporting goods chain stores looking at a wall full of pistol magazines when the expert behind the counter comes down to advise us. "Can I help you guys?" "Yeah, you got any Kimber magazines for a 1911?" (Remember we are seriously studying a wall rack full of magazines.) Expert looks puzzled. Then, "maybe", he says, motioning for us to follow as he walks 50 feet down the gun counter. We get to the cash register and he whips out a nice glossy magazine with a pretty Kimber 1911 on the cover. (I bit a hole in my cheek trying not to laugh.) My nephew is looking at the guy like he's from New York City or something.

    Having no idea what to say to the guy, I finally mimed a tap-rack-bang for John Browning. Finally, a glint of realization in his eye. "OH, you mean CLIPS????"

    I involuntarily cringe and quickly try to assess the value of explaing the difference between a clip, a magazine, and a copy of Combat Handguns.

    (Nah, I decide. Don't go there!)

    "uh.....yeah.... clips....do you have any clips for a 1911?" (Gint of realization has faded from John Brownings eyes by now.)

    Nephew: "Like a Colt Government Model.45?"

    I don't think we have any right now. If we do, they will be on that wall down there.....

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    From the other side of the counter, I worked in a gun store in Hobbs, NM. At least once a week someone came in and asked

    "Hey, you gotta clip for a nine millimeter"?

    Me (or one of the other employees): "What kind?"

    Customer: "A nine millimeter."

    Me: "Do you know the make or model?"

    Customer: :mellow:

    Me: "Do you know who made it? Or can you tell me the model number?"

    Customer: :mellow::unsure: They look at each other (these guys always seemed to come in packs of two to four) " . . . It's a nine millimeter."

    Me: "Do you have the gun with you? If you bring it in, I'll look at it and see if we have a magazine for it. If not, we can probably order one."

    Customer: "A what?"

    Me: <_< "Do you have the gun with you?"

    Sometimes they'd leave and come back. Sometimes they made a phone call. If they left to get this information, there was an almost 50% chance they'd come back with the serial number, but no make or model. (Sometimes we could figure it out from that, sometimes not.)

    Sometimes the customer said: "No. It's in Mexico."

    Me: :wacko: "Ok. Next time you're there, or if you can call someone who can look at it, write down who made it and what it's called, the model name or model number. I can probably find a magazine for it if you get me that information."

    Customer: "That's what you put the bullets in? Cause that's what I need."

    Me: :blink: "Um . . . yeah."

    The other common one was people who wanted bullets. We had a lot of customers who bought reloading supplies from us. We had customers who came in wanting bullets, who we knew dang good and well they really wanted factory ammunition. Sometimes, if it was someone we knew, just to yank their chain, when they asked for bullets, we got them bullets. If you got a :unsure: it was priceless.

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