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You may discover you're perfectly happy with it "as is".
~Mitch
A very good point!
I put maybe a hundred rounds through mine, just cause I felt like it, before I left it with Matt McLearn for a reliability package, tuning, trigger job etc. I went pretty much full-bore, all new fire control parts etc so I didn't see any reason to break it in since the hammer, trigger, sear, disconnector, sear, sear spring, mainspring, mainspring cap, firing pin, firing pin spring, recoil spring, ambi safeties, and extractor were all new. Pretty much everything except the barrel, bushing, frame, slide, grip safety and guide rod were new. R,Bart, that makes sense. If I was going to swap out all the internals like you did, I guess breaking it in would be kind of a moot point other than the wearing in the side rails... For me, I think I'm going to put my faith in STI (based on everything I've heard about their pistols), and am anticipating that this gun will probably be just fine 'out of the box'. That said, I'm sure some aspects can be improved upon, but will probably do as recommended and break it in and see how it shoots before doing anything else.
Thanks again for the replies.
PS, how do people feel about the Trojan's STippling on the front strap? A good use for grip tape?
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Oh hell, I walked into that one.... (where's the forehead slapping icon?)
Sorry, but that's just wrong!!!
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trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in.
Gross?
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Hi everyone.
I started shooting USPSA in Sept w/ a Kimber TLE II, and recently decided to get a STI Trojan to serve as my primary SS gun. The STI should be here sometime next week. I ordered it through a local gunsmith who is also a competitor, and has a good rep as a 1911 mechanic around here (which is to say I trust his judgement).
I ordered it with the Dawson FO front sight and a S&A magwell, and kept the rest stock (i.e. KISS). I read a lot about trigger jobs and reliability tuning packages that companies like Brazos offers, but wanted to have the work done locally by somebody I knew (not that I doubt the work done by Brazos...) so I opted to have the pistol delivered as is, without any work done on it.
My guy recommended that I break it in first with about 500 rounds before he started working on the trigger and smoothing out the internals. I've read a few threads about people having the trigger work or tuning done before they even take delivery of the pistol, and was wondering what the opinions are on this: Break it in first then have work done on it, or vice versa? It seems to make sense to me to break it in first and let everything wear in... but I'm open to hear what folks have to say.
Thanks for the advice.
BTW, I'm just a middlin' C shooter, and probably a low 'D' when it comes to tinkering on pistols (I know enough to be dangerous...)
Cheers!
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G'day Marty!
I was in Queensland at the end of April (Brisbane and Caloundra), and enjoyed three glorious days on the Sunshine Coast. I didn't get a chance to look into IPSC while in AUS, but chatted up a few of the local lads about shooting and gun ownership in general in your country. You're to be commended for pursuing shooting sports with regulations like those! Good on ya!
Have a good one, and hope to hear from you.
Cheers!
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Moly-coated lead and Clays seem to be a good combo for me...
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I puzzled on this until I saw a CR belt in the flesh. The trick is the inner belt which the outer belt velcros to. Thread the inner belt through the belt loops on your pants, then affix the outer belt (the one w/ the holster and all the mag pouches). That keeps it nice and legal per the rules.
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Good question. I use a U-die when reloading .40, but have never needed one for .45. I occasionally squad w/ a guy shooting a G21 so I'm sure some of our brass has gotten mixed up, but never had any problems. And I use a case gage too.
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I went with moly SWC's from Bear Creek after using LSWC's for a while. Definitely cleaner on the barrel and less smoke, but also cleaner on the seating die due to no lube ring. So far so good, but I'm only working my way through my first 2K. 4.3 gr Clays w/ 200 gr SWC for 170 PF. I need to re-chrono when it gets warmer to see if that changes.
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there is a hugh gap between me and the master class shooters that won my division and the match, but I will keep workin on it....
That should be the motto of the Eternal Order of the C-class/Sharpshooter Gang
Can anybody translate that into Latin?
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Did you shoot handguns before or were you a true "newb"?
I have to tell you though, and post it, that my last practice session I truly finally saw and understood "seeing my sights lift"! I was fuzzy on the idea before, but after working on my grip and sight picture I finally got it- the gun looked and felt like it was on a hinge and it was moving up and blocking my view for a second then on the way down I could see the target again and I felt that I was just unconsciously pulling the trigger as the target appeared again. I was shooting at a 7" circle steel plate (angled down) at 21' and a 1/3 size IPSC steel at 30' and I was double tapping those suckers! I know I have a long way to go, but what fun!
Awesome feeling to "get it", thanks to the Benos forum and the great people on here!
(I hope this is not in the wrong forum too...)
I've been shooting, reloading, and into pistols since the late 80's... which makes me wonder why it took me so long to discover USPSA... Used to shoot 'competitively' w/ my room-mates in college for bragging rights, beer, and to see who got to use the garage for the week.
I had the same epiphany last week, when I saw my sights lift during bill drills. Actually modified bill-drills: I set up a popper-sized steel plate w/ shooting boxes at 40 yds, 20 yds, and 12 yds. I'd start at the 40 yd box, fire 6, run/reload to the 20 yd box, shoot six, run to the 12 yd box, shoot six.... 18 rnds total. By the second drill, started noticing my sights lift at the 20 yd line, then really started seeing my sights bouncing at the 12 yd line. So then experimented with 'driving' the gun back on target even faster. I don't have a timer (need to get one), but feel like my splits were coming down. Shooting Steel Challenge once a month has helped, and and am getting consistent times in the 5 sec range, occasionally breaking into the 4's when all the stars line up. Far cry from some of the other guys in the sub-3's... but am happy to report that however slow, however painfully, there is progress. OTOH, I seem to be stuck in the mid-50% with all my classifiers, so even though 'B' is a mere 4-5% away, it might as well be a mile.
But it's all good. 'C' is just fine by me. I'm hooked. Helps that I live 5 mins of one club, and 45 mins of two others.
Cheers!
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Some things are best left un-documented!
Cant argue with my daughter that its an efficient way to move downrange to the far targets!
I can't fault her logic. A couple more times downrange and I would have been doing it too! Let's see, there were 9 shooters in the squad, 35 yds to the far targets and back... we probably covered a 1/4 mile...
That would have been a good picture: RO, score keeper, and shooter skipping their way back to the shooting line! Whatever it takes to attract new shooters. Maybe next time.
Cheers
-Evans
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Is Nick Welch a shooter?
Nick's a shooter, great match director, and as it turns out -is a pretty good writer!
Tim: what, no picture of your outstanding skipping technique on Stage 5?
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I think it was back in Dec that I received a batch of undersized .40 S&W 180 gr RNFP bullets from Precision Delta. Per my calipers, they were about .001-2" undersized, but I didn't realize this until I loaded a couple and was literally able to seat the bullets and remove them by hand. At first I questioned my seating die, then my calipers, but a quick call to PD cleared everything up. The nice lady I talked to (she called me 'dear' and 'sweetie') acknowledged that they had a run of bad .40 S&W bullets. They sent me a replacement box that showed up a couple weeks later.
I don't know what caused the bullets to be undersized, but I can't knock their Customer Service. Everybody has a 'Monday', even PD. I'll buy from them again.
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Shoot matches on weekends, hunt on weekdays (less people). If work interferes, work less. That's what Annual Leave is for!
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I've only shot Level I matches so far, and usually only take note of my classifier results so I can look it up when I get home. I'm mainly there for the fun of it, but it wouldn't be a competition if I didn't pay more than a passing interest to my scores...! At my level, I doubt anybody would ever be out to screw me, but I can easily acknowledge the human-factor part in typo's or error in transcription. You guys have given me some good ideas.
I like the idea of carbon-copy score sheets the best, but that's probably going to depend on if the match organizers opt to use them or not. Having some sheets for my own use w/ T1 - T16, # of Steel hits, and a box for time is easily doable. I could probably get 6 stages on one sheet. Good idea, and simple. I'm an analog guy, and not very digital, so you probably won't find me 'twittering' my scores... Pencils work for this kid.
At big matches (Level II or higher), once we're done shooting a stage, does somebody run them over to the Stats Shack, or do we turn them in at the end of each day?
Thanks for all the advice/tips/war stories. Got Area 1 coming up in a few more months, and I'm trying to learn as much as I can before then.
Cheers
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Thanks for the replies and advice. "Wailing Wall", huh? Good one!
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9.8.1 "Each competitor is responsible to maintain an accurate record of their scores to verify the lists posted by the Stats Officer."
I'm assuming nobody gets nutted-up over Level 1 Matches, but for Level II or higher, is this a common practice?
What do you do, follow the R.O. during scoring w/ your own notepad / score sheet?
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My dogs had a skunk encounter last Sept. It was nasty. Happened just before midnight, right before going to bed. I had to do a late night run to the store for supplies while my wife was washing them off w/ the hose.
We can attest that tomato juice doesn't work. Nor does 6 baths in one night. We've since found the peroxide/baking soda 'recipe', and have it written down for the next episode.
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When is the big match?
Area 1 is not until June, but I was concerned with being unclassified, so I waited until I earned my first classification in early Feb before submitting my registration. Turns out, I shouldn't have been worried since they pull all of our classifications right before the match. Highly doubtful that I'll go from C to B in the next four months, but like I said -I shouldn't have been worried.
As long as you can shoot three more classifiers before the "big" match, and Sedro Wooley has them on file, I don't believe you need to worry about classification. At least that's what I was told.
Good luck at your match. Fun, ain't it?
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Forgot to add, the 9mm SS shooter (referred to in my earlier post) and I were comparing advantages of Minor vs Major SS last weekend. He can plan the way he shoots his COF based on 10+1 rounds, where as I have to contend w/ 8+1. The way some COF's are laid out, those extra couple of rounds before a reload can make a 1 to 2 sec difference in time if he doesn't have to reload, or can put it off until he has to move to another shooting box.
On the other hand, I don't usually have to worry about calibration of pepper poppers, and that really big hole of a LSWC has saved me from a no-shoot or hardcover. Pluses and minuses, glass is half-full. Shoot with what you got. That 9mm Trojan is a nice gun.
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my newest purchase was a sti trojan in 9 mm for idpa esp. it is a great gun, but handicaps me in uspsa single stack.
nels
Bugsbear, when you say your 9mm Trojan limits you for USPSA SS, do you mean the caliber? Yeah, shooting SS Minor is a consideration, and you're dropping a lot of points w/ C and D hits -but you probably knew that. On the other hand, your splits are probably quicker than when shooting a .45 acp.
There's a guy I shoot w/ a lot and he's shooting a SS in 9mm, whereas I'm shooting a SS in .45 acp in Major. Try as I might, I can't catch him. But then again, maybe that's why I am a C-class shooter and he's a B! Sometimes I think my .45 is my handicap, but I staying with it.
That said, there's always a .40 S&W Trojan.
If the concern is trying to hit that skinny hole w/ a SS mag... practice, practice, practice! Technique can go a long way in overcoming inherent handicaps in the hardware. Have you considered a magwell?
Cheers
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Single Stack, I'm wearing three doubles. Even if I wanted more, I'm out of room!
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At any rate, I don't really care what my competition guns look like as long as they run.
Amen!
Trojan on the way
in 1911-style Pistols
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...sigh... that they do... Want to learn about Greek mythology? Just peruse the condom aisle in a grocery store...