Blueridge
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Got my shirt today. Maybe next year they will add the option of a polo shirt for the shooters.
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I am thinking about trying Autocomp in my .45 Colt loads after seeing reloading information in my Hodgdon Reloading Manual for it. Anyone have any experience with it in this caliber?
I have not been able to get my hands on any yet, so I figured that I would see if anyone had used it in .45 Colt before I do. Not expecting that many (if any) had, but it never hurts to ask.
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If I have failed to mention it in my most previous post, I really did enjoy the revolver nationals. I honestly never expected to get the chance to shoot a level 3 dedicated revolver match. The Memphis Charity Challenge was the closest that I expected to get. As I knew going into the match I need to pick up the speed Notch or two.
I am proud to have had the chance to shoot with all of the participants at the match. I look forward to the chance to shoot with you fine people again in the year to come.
I must agree that the single stack/revolver stages were as challenging as any I have seen or watched shot. The participants showed that safe enjoyment can be had by all, no matter the issues that may challenge them. Equipment or otherwise.
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Yep, my ammo went minor and I was as surprised as anyone. It won't happen again I'll make sure of that. Can't remember saying that the Alaskan is macho, but it is durable. Marching to a different drummer. . .Yes I do, and have no shame in doing so. Even if I didn't blending in with the crowd would not happen for me anyhow, so why should I? I can take a good ribbing as good as anyone and I am glad that I brought some humor to your day. Before you insult my ammo (which I still have several hundred rounds of) how about I let you set some off? I can save some just for you to shoot. Bet it would put the recoil of whatever load that you use to shame. The failure was due to a miscalculation on my part that I will fix.Whomever is running the chrono stage next year I suggest that you get ready. I will make major and suggest that you hang on when you light my loads off. That 190PF that I saw listed this year might get exceeded by me next year. And don't you worry because ALL of my reloads will be that strong. You will be able to find me wherever I will be and get random ammo to test a second time if you doubt the results from the first test. You might want to get a heavy duty shooting glove. Just remember to be prepared for the .45 Colt ammunition, it will be mine. Don't even think about crying foul because I will be using the same ammunition that you will be testing. If you don't think that you can handle it, then step aside for someone who can.
Just sayin'
You have been put on notice
Blueridge, after all your talk about how much you like to march to the tune of a different drummer with your oh-so-macho Ruger Alaskan, I think it's pretty funny that you got yourself busted for shooting pussy ammo!
Nobody has ever accused me of being a gamer, sandbagger, or someone trying to gain an unfair advantage. Not saying that you are, so don't go taking any offense now. I like doing the best that I can on my terms, rather than simply having the goal of winning. I doubt that you would have even noticed that I went minor if I had not posted that I had. No shame here.
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Whomever is running the chrono stage next year I suggest that you get ready. I will make major and suggest that you hang on when you light my loads off. That 190PF that I saw listed this year might get exceeded by me next year. And don't you worry because ALL of my reloads will be that strong. You will be able to find me wherever I will be and get random ammo to test a second time if you doubt the results from the first test. You might want to get a heavy duty shooting glove. Just remember to be prepared for the .45 Colt ammunition, it will be mine. Don't even think about crying foul because I will be using the same ammunition that you will be testing. If you don't think that you can handle it, then step aside for someone who can.
Just sayin'
You have been put on notice
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I truly enjoyed the match, but I am still perplexed by my ammo going minor. I'll have to figure that issue out once I get the chance to chrono my ammo again back home. Something went wrong with my ammo and right now I have no idea what. The match was great along with the members of the squad I was with. This match and the Memphis Charity Challenge matches I have participated in are the two best matches I have had the chance to participate in.
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Why should different actions get different divisions?Why isn't my XDM in SSP?
Why aren't DA/SA guns in one category, safe action in another?I found it strange that Glocks come under SSP and XD's come under ESP. Both are striker fired weapons that bring the striker back to some extent every shot. Both shoupd be in the same division.
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I agree with the sentiments about Sam and his match being at least as responsible as anything else for the Nationals in a couple of weeks. On that note, I think we shooters who are going to enjoy these Nationals need to "pick up the slack" for Sam's charity for 2013, since we can't do it in Memphis. If we all kick in, we can get a nice chunk of change for Sam to give to the kids. I'm in for $50.
DanO
That is a great idea. I am willing to donate to the cause for this year to keep the tradition going. Sam just let us know the best way to provide the funds so that a 2013 donation can be made to the children's hospital.
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I look forward to the 2014 Memphis Charity Challenge. I believe that without the past MCC matches that the current dedicated 2013 USPSA Revolver Nationals would not have come to be held. While I hate to see the 2013 MCC cancelled, I respect why you decided to do so.
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Good to hear.
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So,
Its almost time for the BACK TO BACK NATIONALS! just picked up my Single Stack Wow! that is different. I've been so focused on the wheeler, it is all I've been shooting. Going to try a match this weekend with both guns to find out how bad the transition is going to be.
Any one else doing anything different to get ready?
I have been reloading ammunition and shot a match recently. I have spent time visualizing what I did well and not so well from the match. I plan to chrono some of my reloads just to confirm that they are loaded for the power factor I want. I know that they will make major, I just want to know what they more specifically making.
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600 rounds, 700 rounds... it sounds like you guys are planning for lot of misses.
It has only happened to me once at a match, but I have had to reshoot 2 long courses of fire (a 27 and 32 round course). I almost ran out of ammo that match and decided after that to always have at least 1.5 to 2 times the amount of ammo advised for any match.
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I have 450 rounds loaded up of .45 Colt ammunition (250 gr RNFP over 5.9gr Titegroup) ready to go. From my experience using 5.6gr Titegroup they should pass chrono, but I will send a few across my chrono just to double check. I might load up 50 more just to have an even 500 ready.
I hope that the Revolver Nationals lives up to or exceeds the bar set by the Memphis Charity Challenge.
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Being right handed and left eye dominant I run those type of courses right to left normally. Maybe I don't move fast enough to cause a problem with my reloads.
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I didn't even think about how short the barrel was on the Alaskan, Blueridge. .45Colt isn't exactly optimized for a short barrel (heck, when the cartridge was invented... 5" was probably considered a short barrel). I'm sure it's pretty spectacular shooting it in low light.
I have heard from others that the "fireball" is pretty interesting to see. I don't notice one when I am shooting. I have not recently fired it indoors or in low light, so I don't recall what the flash looks like with my current load.
One thing for sure is that I have never been accused of being a gamer.
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I'll be using my Ruger Alaskan (.454/.45) loaded with .45 Colt ammunition. As normal for me I am using speedloaders (SL Variant) and sending 250gr LRNFP bullets downrange. I'll of course be making major power factor as always with my .45 Colt reloads.
With 250gr bullets, if you didn't make major the bullet might not make it out of the barrel!
The 2.5" barrel has been the biggest challenge to making major. The Hodgdon reloading manual uses a 7.25" barrel for their .45 Colt loads, so I had to work up the load (within the manuals load parameters) to compensate for that. I use 90 to 94 percent (depending on the particular load) of the max powder load of titegroup so that I can make major consistently.
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I shot battle in the blue grass in production with my 8 shot 627. I placed 17 overall in production so shooting a 8 shot in production is actually very competitive.
Josh, I actually think you helped me make my point here. You're one of the best wheels in the game today, and you finished only 17th place. It sounds like you performed very well comparatively, but the handicap was still way too much to overcome.
My challenge stands. The only person to take me up on it so far has been Rich Brethour, and we will face off at Area 2 in November.
I don't quite agree with you Carmoney. To me Mr. Lentz showed that revolver shooters can be competitive in Production currently. He finished 17th out of more than 90 competitors, which to me seems to go against your arguement.
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I'll be using my Ruger Alaskan (.454/.45) loaded with .45 Colt ammunition. As normal for me I am using speedloaders (SL Variant) and sending 250gr LRNFP bullets downrange. I'll of course be making major power factor as always with my .45 Colt reloads.
I own a 625, but never really enjoyed it as much as the Alaskan. In fact I have never even used the 625 in competition.
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I think it's great to look at the ICORE crowd, but I think it's apples and oranges. USPSA is considered the come as you are, wide open, wild and wooly ,balls to the walls, your hair's on fire events. While ICORE is a Revolver specific event. Kind of like you see a lot more at SASS matches, but they just won't do USPSA.
I tend to agree with you. I believe that to improve revolver participation in USPSA that matches such as the Memphis Charity Challenge and the upcoming dedicated revolver nationals are what is needed. It does not matter what the equipment allowed is if the matches to participate in are not there. I have no issue with ICORE participants, as I have not had the opportunity to try the disipline. Therefore I really cannot make any statements to their mindset.
I am a competitive fencer and every year my goal is to qualify and compete in the US Nationals. There are 3 weapon categories (Foil, Epee, a & Saber), 4 divisions (III, II, I, & IA), and age based competitions (Y12, Y14, U16, U19, Vet40, Vet50, Vet60, & Vet70). When I competeted in Australia in 2004 I found out that their "Nationals" is all one big competition. The fencers that I spoke with advised that they would love to have the divisions that the USA has at their nationals. The different divisions attracts more competitors to the nationals.
My point is that making a dedicated revolver nationals attracts more revolver competitors (as can be seen by the entrant numbers), where as before participants were choosing between revolver and one of the auto divisions at nationals, with revolver division losing participants in the decision. Currently I believe that more dedicated matches are the answer to the participation issue. Having two matches during the year like the Memphis Charity Challenge and then a dedicated Revolver Nationals would increase participation.
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It occurred to me that it is the differences between ICORE and USPSA that may have caused the level of participation we now see in Revolver Division in USPSA. ICORE matches allow for a wider variety of revolvers to be used, and with that participants take the opportunity provided to use the options allowed. Then you compare that to what revolver shooters are allowed in USPSA, and it apparently does not appeal to as many ICORE shooters. Beyond the equipment issue lack of other revolver shooters to compete against in USPSA matches in general has caused revolver participation to be low. The first step is to get more participation in USPSA Revolver Division, as has been discussed on this thread. To that end more revolver dedicated matches need to be held, in my opinion. The Memphis Charity Challenge is an example. I am confident that revolver shooters that have attended spent some time training and shooting at other matches getting ready for the MCC, because they had a specific match to prepare for. Now a dedicated Revolver Nationals is going to happen and clearly this has brought out more people shooting revolvers at nationals. Lack of a dedicated match may have been a large reason for low revolver participation in USPSA as a whole.
The issue of the 6+ shot revolvers is an important one, but getting the Revolver Nationals and more dedicated revolver matches should have precedence. If you don't have the matches to attract the revolver shooters, then it does not really matter what equipment is allowed.
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Any idea what the nationals shirts will look like? I for one would like to pre-order a couple at least.
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I shoot in the MCC match because I enjoy participaing in the match with my Ruger Alaskan Revolver. I do my best to engage the stages well and observe how my performance compares to other participants. If it was not fun to shoot in the match I would find a fencing tournament to compete in instead. I HATED missing the 2012 match after participating in the first three matches, but work prevented me from being there. As long as the MCC matches are held I intend on doing my best to be there and participate.
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1 second for each shot should be your goal for your total time for a stage. If you have a stage with 24 shots in it, then your total time should be 24 seconds or faster. The top shooters will usually do this 25% faster, about 18 sec runs.
Reload time should not be factored into your total time unless you do a standing reload. I usually figure for a 2.5 sec reload.
Diisappering targets should be ignored if they are non penalty targets. Speed is king in revo division.
Don't slow down to shoot steel. Don't miss the steel. This is a killer for me, it really trashes your time
I understand the idea behind of having the goal of 1second per shot, but I don't see why reload time should not be added in. Between required movement in the stage and reloading it would seem a good idea to add in 7.5 seconds for the 3 required reloads on a 24 round stage.
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My first goal is to try and eliminate as much movement between arrays as possible. If I can lean around and pick up a target in addition to the array that I am facing, then I will. This might mean taking a 30 yard shot on a target that I could get a 5 yard shot on later after moving in the stage.
Always remember to reload after taking 6 shots. I have found few things that break my concentration
more than forgetting that and hearing the dreaded "click" after forgetting handling stages.
Shoot to your strengths and try not to get caught up in engaging a stage in a way that gets you away from that.
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I'll see all of you that are going to the revolver nationals. You'll recognize me by the Ruger Alaskan that I will be shooting in the match. Those who I am not in squad with will likely hear when I am shooting when my 45 Colt rounds are fired. I don't know how many C class competitors I'll finish ahead of, but I intend to finish ahead of a number of them. It will be a "non-competitive" type of revolver using "non-competitive" speedloaders.
Will there ever be a "strong" contingent of revolver shooters in USPSA (or IDPA for that matter)? I don't really have a good feeling about that, but I'll continue to compete using a revolver. There are a lot of good ideas being suggested, but very little in the way of a consensus among all those interested in seeing an improvement in revolver participation. Asking for the moon is not the issue, but there has to be common ground on what will be settled for.
I maintain as a current personal goal to make C class in Production using my Ruger Alaskan in the next few years along with improving my class in revolver division. If for no other reason but to show that it can be done while working on both. Think what you will, but I have never sought the "popular" way of doing things. The road less traveled is what I prefer, suffering whatever "slings & arrows" that come along with that decision.
To all I hope that you enjoy competing in whatever way you choose.
2013 USPSA Revolver Nationals
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You know that it does not look good to kick a man when he is down. I had put that incident behind me, and here you go bringing back the painful memory.