Blueridge
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Is it too late to change classes for the match? I'm thinking to get stomped in limited as opposed to production.
Real men shoot production.
With a revolver......
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I was glad to see that enough revolver competitors were participating to see the division recognized for awards. With 500+ entrant slots I was hoping to see more than 12 though. Fun will be had nonetheless.
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I am curious to see what the stages will resemble. I looked at last years stages, and I am eager to see if this years stages look equally challenging.
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Blueridge, when you convert a standard Redhawk for moonclips the cylinder is recessed just enough for the moonclip itself and leaves a bit of space for the rim to sit on if you wanted to shoot loose rounds. These are usually turned on a lathe and the process is pretty straightforward. It only requires you send off the cylinder itself, not the whole gun, and I think I paid $85 for mine. Here's an example from Pinnacle's website to show the edge that's left for loose rounds:
http://pinnaclehighperformance.com/
When you mentioned the new factory 45 ACP/Colt Redhawk there's something else you might want to consider. They are shipping these with a proprietary thickness for the moonclip and last I checked they were the only supplier at $5 a piece. So if you plan to buy a lot of moonclips it's about the same price to convert one to use the standard S&W 625 thickness clips, I got 100 standard ACP clips for $45 for example. Just something to consider.
Good to know
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I have a .45 Colt Redhawk and I can load 265s at over 1400 from it. The Casull would have to be unbearable.
I was thinking about getting it machined for moons. I could still load it all ridiculous, but I would also be able to shoot .45 ACP in it and if I really did want to shoot a match with it, I could.
Unfortunately, I don't think I have a holster for it that meets the USPSA rules because when I do carry it, I carry it in a DOH type holster so it doesn't interfere with whatever's on my back.
I sent my Redhawk out for a moonclip conversion about one year ago and have been very happy with it. I much prefer moonclips to speedloaders and the added versatility with ACP is nice. I always bring mine as a backup for the 625 at matches. For what it's worth I feel the Redhawk is far more abusive to shoot with it's metal backstrap, I don't like to do more than 50-60 rounds of the hot stuff in one sitting. If you put those same loads in a Super Redhawk with a cushioned Hogue grip it's night and day.
Does getting it cut for moonclips affect the distance between the firing pin and the ammunition when using .45 Colt. I would presume that the Redhawk that was released for 45 ACP & 45 Colt took that into consideration, but having the work done on a "Standard" Redhawk that was chambered in 45 Colt would require a good bit of work?
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Revolver guys are weird.
Not weird sir, just misunderstood.
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I have been using a Ruger Alaskan in USPSA & IDPA completion since 2007. Although I fire 45 Colt in mine for competition. the idea of firing approximately 90+ rounds of 454 Casull from it in a match that is 400PF has no appeal to me. I salute you and wish you well!
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Is IDPA fun? I think so.
As far as the difference between IDPA and USPSA, it is like the difference between Basketball and Netball. The core of both sports are similar equipment wise, but the rules that govern how you play the sports are different. Whichever you like the rules of you will probably like.
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but with the 8 shot revolver coming out I figured that I would ask.
you know something we dont?
8 shot revolvers have been around for a long while.
Okay, let me clarify. With 8 shot revolvers being allowed in USPSA competition, and being able to use same without the prior restrictions. I thought that with the number of 8 shot revolvers coming into more regular use in competition due to that, someone might have decided to wield one in 3-gun competition.
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Thanks for all of the replies. They were pretty much what I expected, but with the 8 shot revolver coming out I figured that I would ask.
I had fun at the match, and did not come in last (there were 15 people behind me, and that was from the overall results
). It was fun and I may do it again sometime. It was all about having fun and using what I had, with of course the goal to finish ahead of as many as I could.With all of the chest shotgun shell rigs and other belt and leg setups, it seems to me that a 3-gun shooter can make space for whatever they need.
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Nice to hear that the match is still on. While I doubt that I can make it, I hope it is a big success.
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Anyone shoot a revolver in a 3-gun or multigun match at any level?
There was a 3-gun match locally this past weekend that I decided to just have fun and use a S&W 625 along with a pump shotgun and a RRA AR-15. Had fun and did pretty good, which was my goal. I just wondered with the S&W 929 being in the hands of a number of competitors, if any of them (or anyone else) used a revolver in such matches.
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It looks like to me that you would push the rear of the lever to the left to release the cylinder. Normally you would push the "button" in to the right, but doing that with the lever would seem to me to work opposite that to me.
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Any photos from the top of the revolver? Never mind, I see the top down photo image in the first pic now.
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11 revolver shooters as of this post.
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A little back story:
USPSA Level II
Shooter engages target multiple times. The base of the popper had became loose and was rocking. The shooter shot, pause, shot again, pause, shot several more times. then finally rapid fired the target to get it to fall over. It was an activator for the CoF so he kept shooting at it, to get it to activate the drop turner and swinger.
All hits were in the calibration zone. The shooter also knows the calibration rules and knocked it over anyway.
Upon ULASC the RO said. "That target has been screwed up all morning. I would have already fixed it but the RM told all staff to not mess with the poppers and wait for a shooter to call for calibration so I have left it alone. You should have stopped It is really screwed up". The shooter replied. "Why have you not called the RM for calibration?". The RO "No one asked"
The shooter told the RO, he would like to speak to the RM, and the Rangemaster was called. The Rangemaster decided on his own he would shoot the target for giggles. The Rangemaster hitting the calibration zone failed to knock it over with 3 separate adjustments. Rangemaster offered a reshoot. This upset people because the shooter shot down the target.
The RM offered the reshoot. He cited C1(7) "In the absence of any interference, or problem with a target mechanism, a calibration officer must conduct a calibration test....." He said " the popper had a known problem and without even shooting the popper myself, the RO already admitted the activator (popper) was not operating correctly. The RO should not have started the shooter until he believed the stage and all of its props and activators are working properly." He failed to contact me long ago when he first believed the popper was out of calibration".
Now, what say you all? Reshoot or No Reshoot
Here is my take on this post. The shooter decided to keep shooting the popper and it finally went down. The shooter proceeded to finish the stage. At that point the stage is over and no decision on a reshoot needs to be made. Issue over.
Now from the Monday morning quarterback viewpoint.......The RM, CRO, and any RO's that ran the stage SHOULD have made sure that any popper that they KNEW were not properly calibrated was properly ready for the shooters coming to the stage. Until the shooter was told that the problem with the popper was already known by the RO and RM, there was no known issue to the shooter of the failure of either to handle a pre-existing problem. With what the shooter knew at the beginning of the stage engagement, the shooter made their decision to shoot the popper down. Thus the shooter intentionally acted to negate their opportunity to reshoot the stage by shooting the popper until it went down. If the shooter knew that they were striking the popper in the "calibration zone", then they had enough information to move on and decide to complete the stage and then call for calibration check.
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I have been shooting my Ruger Alaskan loaded with 45 Colt in USPSA and IDPA for the past ten years. I mainly shoot for fun, but that does not mean that I don't try to win. The S&W 625 is a good revolver for both USPSA and IDPA, and I own one myself. I simply prefer shooting the Ruger Alaskan in shooting competitions. Ruger GP-100 revolvers are also good, but many prefer the S&W revolvers for competition.
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At the risk of making things considerably harder on myself, I would like to see more revolver shooters registered for this match. Preferably "C" class. *Hint, Hint*
As of this post there are only 6 revolver division shooters registered, three of which are "C" class.
Last year I believe that there were 11 revolver shooters, and it would be nice to see that number or better in 2016.
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Maybe people shooting IDPA are busy reloading, practicing, buying new firearms, etc... and have not found the time to post much. I mean we all have lives outside the shooting sports after all.
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I am primarily a revolver competitor. I like seeing the variety of divisions and equipment that people use for them. I supported the change to allow revolver division to allow 8 shot revolvers, although I have no current intention (unless maybe I come by an 8 shot revolver by way of a gift) of shooting the division with an 8 shot. I am however considering getting a Ruger Redhawk 45 ACP/45 Colt (but that is beside the point).
I think that CO would be a welcome division to USPSA, and would give shooters who were interested another avenue to pursue and try to master. I myself still have my focus on improving my ability in revolver division, and if I were to decide to shoot an auto it would probably be a single stack.
I hope that the division get approved (and the weight issue changed if it needs to be for the sake of the division), and look forward to seeing the variety (or lack thereof) that the participants in the division use.
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I'm scheduled to compete in the match! Now I just have to get the work/practice in to be ready to shoot the match. I was not planning to shoot an area match at all, but one of my cohorts/ friends/ instigators talked me into it. He convinced me to shoot the match on a squad with him. He is shooting production division and I am shooting revolver division, so we won't be competing against each other (but pride is still on the line, as we keep up with who shoots the stages better).
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The whole Mother's Day weekend is a non-starter for me as far as the Revolver Nationals. I understand that range availability is not necessarily easy to come by, but I cannot reason going to the match instead of spending that weekend with my mother. I figured that the first year was an anomaly, but that was not the case given the Revolver Nationals have remained that weekend. I hope that the Revolver Nationals remains a success, but it will have to be without me (Not that I will be missed or anything
).That being the case, my focus is on the Memphis Charity Challenge instead.
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Some of you may have read some of my other post about how I bought a S&W 929 and had it slicked up. After about 1200 rounds I am coming to the conclusion that it revo may not be for me. I know, I know....your saying give it more time. But going from limited where I normally come place in the top of the pack to being pretty much at the bottom of the pack has messed with my mojo.
I am not finding it fun. It is very frustrating to me and I find myself not wanting to shoot. Where I normally am excited and look forward to matches.
So I think I will sell the 929 and go back to what I know. I will look at it as learning experience and move on.
I hate to hear that you have not enjoyed yourself shooting revolver. Preferences are one of the reasons for the various divisions in shooting sports. If you are not looking forward to shooting like you used to, then it sounds like revolver division is not for you. If you are not enjoying yourself, then you might not be doing what is best for you.
I would suggest that you hold onto the 929 for a few months before selling it, unless you really dislike having it around period.
The fact that you gave revolver division a shot to begin with shows that you are more adventuresome than many shooting sports competitors out there.
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First off, the poll is no good, how can you pick NOT to eliminate a division and then have to pick a division ???
Second, what the hell is wantered down ??
The prize money ?!? The prize selection ?!?
This comes up every couple of years, dang limited/lim10/Single Stack/Productions guys tired of getting
whipped by us lowly revolver shooters
Revolver is the smallest division because it's the HARDEST division.
You would be correct Sir!!!
). It was fun and I may do it again sometime. It was all about having fun and using what I had, with of course the goal to finish ahead of as many as I could.
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Since they posted that they will not be printing the stages or match books, I hope that they publish a PDF with that information soon.
545 Shooters competing in the match and hopefully good weather to greet them.