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I've done 4 run and gun matches, and all of them had a lot of targets well outside PCC range. I don't think it would be practical.

My Comp-Tac International for the Gen 4 G34/35 fits my G41.

Are the factory extended mag releases Production legal for Gen 4s? I didn't think Glock offered them on any factory configurations like the Gen 3s.

To echo what others are saying, get a G19 if you want to carry and compete with the same gun. Otherwise, get a G17 or G34 if it's for competition only. The short sight radius on the G26 forces you to slow down and get a more precise sight picture on smaller targets, and the short grip interferes with reloads and gives your hands less purchase to control the muzzle. Sure, a good shooter can do okay with a G26, but why handicap yourself?

Thank you for the kind words. I take a lot of pride in running a fair stage, but I only work the one. I completely understand being upset that not everyone "shot the same match." By the evidence posted here, I think it's fair to say that was the case. I only posted in this thread to attempt to dispel the rumor that this was in anyway intentional by the staff.

I'm still waiting to hear any evidence of either cheating, deception, or playing other competitors. Mistakes have been posted, but none of them were in bad faith. Hey Dufus, ever heard of a synonym? Yes. Now that I've answered your question, could you please answer mine? What evidence do you have there was any synonym of cheating, deception, or playing?

I'm still waiting to hear any evidence of either cheating, deception, or playing other competitors. Mistakes have been posted, but none of them were in bad faith.

Stage 2 - I agree. If the stage description did not prohibit shooting through the rifle port and it was safe to do so then competitors should have been allowed to do so. Bad RO call in my opinion, but I don't think that RO intended to elevate his scores with that call especially when the ROs shot from the further port. Stage 9 - You have a point. However, that is not evidence of ROs attempting to elevate their own scores by disadvantaging other shooters. BJ was not part of the staff.

The staff should do everything possible to make the match as fair as possible. However, just because mistakes are made does not mean there is any conspiracy or ill will. There is no evidence of ill will.

Stage 1 - You are correct. The stage brief should have specified. Also, one shooter grounding a rifle in the wrong spot (an unforeseen event since the barrel was right there) is not a conspiracy. Stage 2 - You are correct. Using the pistol through that rifle port was unforeseen. Stage 9 - BJ Norris is the only shooter that I'm aware of that shot past the fault line. He was forced to reshoot instead of given procedurals because he wasn't properly briefed. "Within shooting area" was in the stage brief. Stage 10 - I absolutely agree if that was the case. Stage 12 - A different position on the barricade was described in the brief. The side of one step is different than the top of another. This thread is the first that the staff is hearing of most of these issues.

I am not aware of any team member being added to the winning team. Stage 1 was not one of the stages shot during the earlier RO match. Some of the ROs may have unknowingly shot it incorrectly the day before the main match, and that carried over. No ROs were supposed to through the wall on stage 9, nor were they supposed to shoot the rifle on the plate on 11 (as the RO on 11, I am not aware of anyone using the rifle on those targets). Using the top of one step and the side of another on the stage 12 barricade is within the rules for that stage and a damn good idea.

I setup stages 2 and 3, and the spray paint for the target stands was still there. I don't know about the other stages. However, it is very likely some targets were a few inches off.

Is that what your rant is? Because it sounds a lot more like someone accusing a well respected member of being a liar and 60 ROs plus a match director of conspiracy and fraud based on rumors and ignorance all while being too cowardly to bring it up in person. I was involved with setup for the match and was an RO on stage 11. I would be happy to answer any questions as best as I can. Please repost them for me so i don't have to search through 16 pages. Off the top of my head, setup for this match normally begins two weeks before the match with the RO shoot the weekend before the main match. The week leading up to the match is normally spent decorating and setting up non-stage related equipment. The stages are not changed in any way between the RO and main match. However, do to range restrictions this year, that was not possible. Half the stages had to be setup weeks before for ROs then torn back down. The target places were marked on the ground with spray paint and pictures were taken to ensure they would be correctly re-setup. This was certainly not ideal, but unavoidable due to range restrictions that were beyond the control of Texas Multi-Gun. Stage 1 was thrown out when it was brought up to the match director that some shooters had used the prop pistol for unintended targets and others were not allowed to do so. This was not properly described in the stage description which was the miscommunication. The rifle port on Stage 2 was never intended for using to shoot the falling steel, and no one should have been allowed to do it. There were always 10 headshot targets on Stage 6. No extra steel was added to Stage 8 (or any other stage). The hole in the wall of the shoot house on Stage 9 was never intended to be a port and should never have been used as one. I don't know anything about the charge line moving for Stage 10. I do know at least one person was DQ'ed for turning up range with their shotgun to dump it in the barrel, so it may have been a safety issue. The "minimal movement" on the barricade for Stage 12 as described (moving from the top of one position to the side of the next position) sounds within the stage rules. I wish I had thought of that. There were seven times the number of Tac Ops shooters as in each of the other division (combining the three in WWII with the 21 in Heavy). That's why there were seven times the number of STI pistols on the Tac Ops table than the other tables. The only problem brought up to the match staff was Stage 1, and that was dealt with properly. Maybe if shooters would voice their concerns to the staff and give them a chance to fix it instead of waiting to complain on the internet afterward then these situations could be averted. Jonathan Slayton

Yes, the match filled up this morning. However, send us an email at info@apdmarksmanshipteam.org, and we can add you to the wait list. Most wait listed were able to shoot last year, so getting on it this early will almost guarantee you a spot.

Yes, offset irons are legal in Tac Optics. We're using standard IMG rules (except Tactical division which we made up).