4 new Grand Master revolver shooters

[gmel]

What USPSA rule was used to advance the 4 new Grand master revolver shooters when their running average did not equal Grand Master status?

Is there a rule in place that allows USPSA staff to advance a shooter before he earns his new classification?

[G-ManBart]

If it's the four folks I'm thinking of, they all shot 95% or better at the Nationals

There is a process where a shooter can request a higher classification if someone feels they're honestly shooting better than their classifier percentage would indicate. It requires some sort of support...maybe club president or an AD?, but it can be done.

For example, maybe you're an M in Limited, but you shoot some Open and Production (and you're automatically an A in those two). You don't have enough classifiers or major match results to push you into M in those two, but you feel you can compete on an even basis as an M, so you request being bumped up....reasonable for many folks really. R,

[Carmoney]

There is a process where a shooter can request a higher classification if someone feels they're honestly shooting better than their classifier percentage would indicate. It requires some sort of support...maybe club president or an AD?, but it can be done.

....but not to obtain a classification of GM. That one must be earned.

Those guys can legitimately say they shot a GM level match at the USPSA Nationals. You have to keep in mind that the high hit factors on the revolver classifiers are so screwed up they do a very poor job of reflecting true shooting ability or projected match performance. Getting a 95%+ hit factor on some of the classifiers is totally impossible in Revo Division (yes, even for Jerry!), and yet on other classifiers it's relatively easy to get a 100% score (even for shooters who actually shoot around a B level).

That said, for the past couple years there has been a problem with class inflation in Revolver Division. It depends far too much on how many classifiers a person shoots, and which particular classifiers he shoots.

[G-ManBart]

There is a process where a shooter can request a higher classification if someone feels they're honestly shooting better than their classifier percentage would indicate. It requires some sort of support...maybe club president or an AD?, but it can be done.

....but not to obtain a classification of GM. That one must be earned.

True, I should have been more specific.

[slflr]

What USPSA rule was used to advance the 4 new Grand master revolver shooters when their running average did not equal Grand Master status?

Is there a rule in place that allows USPSA staff to advance a shooter before he earns his new classification?

See page iii of the rule book.

"if you

score 95% or higher at a USPSA national championship, you will be immediately

moved to Grand Master class for that division."

[gmel]

Thank You! That clears up a lot of talk and runors going around.

[elynch2007]

You can ask to be moved up to a higher class except to GM. GM is earned by results only.

[bbbean]

You have to keep in mind that the high hit factors on the revolver classifiers are so screwed up they do a very poor job of reflecting true shooting ability or projected match performance. Getting a 95%+ hit factor on some of the classifiers is totally impossible in Revo Division (yes, even for Jerry!), and yet on other classifiers it's relatively easy to get a 100% score (even for shooters who actually shoot around a B level).

I'm not sure I understand. SOMEONE shot them at 100%, right?

[Carmoney]

Not necessarily. The 99-series classifiers, for example, use a Revo division HHF that is simply a percentage of the HHF for Limited. Some of them cannot be cleaned with a Revo because of the extra reloads that are required. Some of the later classifiers are based off real match performance, and in many cases those wind up with HHFs that are unrealistically low. It's a big mess. That's why I pay no attention to classification in Revo, it means very little.

[nashvillebill]

Revolver division gets no respect. We should consider ourselves lucky that they let us shoot the same stages.

[gmel]

Revolver division gets no respect. We should consider ourselves lucky that they let us shoot the same stages.

[Nik Habicht]

Revolver division gets no respect. We should consider ourselves lucky that they let us shoot the same stages.

And that occasionally we set up a stage --- where through no planning on the auto-shooter's part --- you don't have to do a standing reload...... :roflol: