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45acp With Clays Need Help


John Baier

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Hey guys,

I know I'm a idiot :huh: . Shot my chrono working up a load with clays. I really need data for Rainiers 200 swc and straight clays. Right now I'm using a col of 1.25. Is 4.3grs going to be to light? or should I bump it up to 4.4 or 4.5? I hate to get down to Kentucky this weekend and end up shooting minor.

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John Baier

"dumb a$$"

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John,

I just worked up a load for the Single Stack Classic last weekend.

200gr RN Rainer

4.7 Clays

Fed Large Pistol primers

1.275 OAL

Gave me 841 FPS

168.2 PF

Out of a Kimber full size 1911

Hope this helps

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John,

I just worked up a load for the Single Stack Classic last weekend.

200gr RN Rainer

4.7 Clays

Fed Large Pistol primers

1.275 OAL

Gave me 841 FPS

168.2 PF

Out of a Kimber full size 1911

Hope this helps

Smitty- Did you see any pressure signs using 4.7? Also is 1.275 a little long for swc's. I'm using a Kimber 5 inch by the way. thanks

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Not anything I thought dangerous. I got a little flow back but no flattening. It's obviously not a very high pressure round, so I wasn't overly concerned. Plus that's what it took to get to major.

Yeah, 1.275 is a little long. I used to load to 1.255 and I mainly shoot .40, when I switched the press back over to .45 I loaded a bunch before checking OAL. I didn't have a lot of time to develop a load and I didn't have any feeding problems so I left it as it was.

I'm also shooting a kimber 5 inch. It has a little over 10K through it so the barrel should still be good. I just kept bumping it till I got to major. Once I get through these bullets I'll probably switch to 230gr. I've got a s-load of clays and only 500 bullets left otherwise I'd probably switch powders.

The round felt OK, but was a little snappy compared to 230's.

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When I shot Clays, I used electroplated West Coast 200s; either SWCs or 200 RNs; the OALs were:

SWC: 1.245"

RNs: 1.260"

I recall getting away with 4.5 grn for the SWCs but I had to bump the RN charge to 4.6 grns to make 165+. Gun was STI Edge 5.0

Regards,

D.C. Johnson

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Hey, don't feel too bad. It's not the first chrono to get a bullet in the forehead. :wacko:

I haven't played much with Clays. Looking back at my records, I tried it back in 2000 with a 200 gr. Berry's plated RN. I was only using 3.7 gr., which gave 693 fps, or 139 PF. I think that was a "starting load" and I never worked up from there.

But that goes along with what some of the others have said about needing around 4.5 gr. or so to make major.

Good luck.

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Just had this load checked at the KY State match and it made 170 + for power factor.

4.4 grains of Clays

Precision 185 grain SWC

Winchester Large Pistol Primers

Federal once fired brass

OAL 1.245

Velocity was in the 925 fps

Hope this helps

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