bjet Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I finally got a .40 conversion for my XL650 and got it all setup. Rushed out a couple hundred for practice and league. Thought I had really regressed in my shooting or something. Finally went to check the sights yesterday and at 7 yards from a rest I was getting about an 8" group. I also had been noticing some keyholing. Measured and here is my load 4.9 of TiteGroup 1.117" OAL Small Pistol Primer 165g rnfmj Searched here and saw that OAL was low. Tried another 50 4.9 1.127" SPP 165g rnfmj Just tried that and it appeared to go to a 6" group. Still keyholing, but less. I am hesitant to increase the OAL anymore as it is a stock Glock. Is it possible I need to increase or decrease the velocity? Try a different bullet? This bullet works fine in my Model 20. Thanks. bjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syme71 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I shoot 3.5gr of TG, 180gr JHP, WSP, 1.27-1.130 OAL. At 12 yards, I can easily do a 2" group from a rest on with a KKM barrel. Stock barrel is a little less accurate due to the first shot flyer but still get around 3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Stock G35 barrels are easily capable of 2.5" inch groups or better at 25yds. with most american brands of factory ammo. My opinion glock 40 cal. barrels like 180gr slugs better than 165gr ones. Try moving the OAL out to 1.135 and make sure your not overdoing your crimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjet Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 Okay, forgive me for not stating the obvious. I know a Glock is capable of better. With generic off the shelf ammo I can handhold about 3" groups at 7 yards or twice as good as my handload from a rest. Kinda why I asked. ;-P My crimp is .421". I see the spec is .423" but is that really a problem? I'll look at that 1.135"OAL and then may try the 180g. bjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKyle1 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I shoot 180g and 200g pushed by 3.1-3.2g TiteGroup and get 2.5" or less groups off-hand out of a g35 with stock barrel at 15yds. That gives me a soft shooting load while still making pf with lots to spare 135-140pf if memory serves me correctly and pf for IDPA SSP is 125. Oh and I am not sure of the crimp... it is there but not sure how much - enough that the bullet does not fall out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 4.2 of TG with 180 TMC Zero at 1.12" will do 3" easy at 25 with factory barrel. I have not found any really accurate load out of my G35. I had a much easier time finding accurate loads for my P16. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjet Posted May 7, 2005 Author Share Posted May 7, 2005 Just as an addendum I grabbed some 180 grain fmj. According to Hogsdon the min is 4.2 and the max 4.7 so started at 4.3 with an OAL of 1.13" Did 30 and at 7 yards off a rest 9 out of 10 were about 1" group. Felt a little hot so came back and changed it to 4.1 grains of TG. About the same if not a little tighter. So just as another data point: 180 grain 4.1 TG 1.13" OAL .422" crimp Thanks for the help. bjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Maybe the gun is new to you or group shooting is new to you? At seven yards your Glock can shoot groups of about 1/4" or smaller. Try putting an orange sticker in the middle of a white paper plate, run it out to 15 yards, and post your results. Remember that sight alignment is much more important than where the sights appear on the target. If I'm speaking out of line feel free to smack me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Maybe the gun is new to you or group shooting is new to you?At seven yards your Glock can shoot groups of about 1/4" or smaller. Try putting an orange sticker in the middle of a white paper plate, run it out to 15 yards, and post your results. Remember that sight alignment is much more important than where the sights appear on the target. If I'm speaking out of line feel free to smack me... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 LOL, just kidding, felt like adding a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Thanks, I needed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 The Glock barrel will shoot accurately with the right ammo. Mine prefers 180's. The biggest problem with me and my Glock is controlling the trigger. Sand bag it and really concentrate on sight alignment as you squeeze. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKyle1 Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 robomanusa, OMG that was funny!!!! I have never seen that ... had to send it to a bunch of people! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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