ano Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Been searching around, not exactly normal use, but we got a class for "pocket guns" and one of the class dictates a 10mm bullet... and G23 is the largest gun that will fit the box, so I bought one. Class does not dictate a minimum powerfactor, so how low can I go on stock springs with 180gr? and what springs are available to go lower? It's for competition use, so of course it needs to cycle every time. I usually buy my springs from wolff, but seems they dont do gen4 glocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The same question for my Gen 3 G30 SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsb Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Been searching around, not exactly normal use, but we got a class for "pocket guns" and one of the class dictates a 10mm bullet... and G23 is the largest gun that will fit the box, so I bought one. Class does not dictate a minimum powerfactor, so how low can I go on stock springs with 180gr? and what springs are available to go lower? It's for competition use, so of course it needs to cycle every time. I usually buy my springs from wolff, but seems they dont do gen4 glocks? I'm using Wolff springs and a Wolff guide rod in a Gen4 G20, with a Zev adapter button. I have used their 10# springs experimenting with light loads, but that light of a spring it won't pass the vertical test in my G20 even with a 4# striker spring. The G20 has a very heavy slide, I would think you'd be able to go lighter with a G23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) What do you mean by "vertical test"? guess I need to google, I havent had any glocks in years, mostly shooting 1911/2011s. edit, I searched, do you mean when you hold the gun upright, and pull slide back, releaseing slowly, checking it will go into battery? Edited October 26, 2015 by ano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsb Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What do you mean by "vertical test"? guess I need to google, I havent had any glocks in years, mostly shooting 1911/2011s. edit, I searched, do you mean when you hold the gun upright, and pull slide back, releaseing slowly, checking it will go into battery? That would be the one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) OP, why do you think the OEM recoil spring won't work just fine? Also what is a "pocket gun" class and why would there be a minimum bullet diameter of 10mm? Pocket guns would normally go do to 9x17mm. Even IDPA BUG division is .32acp minimum. Sounds like some kind of urban tactical marketing. A G23 is not a good choice for USPSA, when you could run a G22/G35 instead. And for IDPA SSP, the power floor is 125 so unless you hand load the 40S&W to minor, you are again paying for it in lost time. The vertical spring test is not absolute, it may work with an almost dead spring, but will definitely not work with a completely dead spring. Jager makes a Gen4 recoil rod that uses Gen3 springs. Edited October 28, 2015 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsb Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The vertical spring test is not absolute, it may work with an almost dead spring, but will definitely not work with a completely dead spring. Jager makes a Gen4 recoil rod that uses Gen3 springs. FWIW, I am using brand new Wolff springs, and have found that on my G20 it takes at least a 13# recoil spring to pass the vertical test when using a 4# striker spring. Brand new 10, 11, and 12# recoil springs would not pass. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 dsb, yea, I have played around with 15,13 and 11's on my G17, but I don't think it's a good test for aftermarket reduced power springs. Even though the gun functions fine, it is slow to close. I do believe its a good indicator for the stock 17lb spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 OP, why do you think the OEM recoil spring won't work just fine? Also what is a "pocket gun" class and why would there be a minimum bullet diameter of 10mm? Pocket guns would normally go do to 9x17mm. Even IDPA BUG division is .32acp minimum. Sounds like some kind of urban tactical marketing. A G23 is not a good choice for USPSA, when you could run a G22/G35 instead. And for IDPA SSP, the power floor is 125 so unless you hand load the 40S&W to minor, you are again paying for it in lost time. The vertical spring test is not absolute, it may work with an almost dead spring, but will definitely not work with a completely dead spring. Jager makes a Gen4 recoil rod that uses Gen3 springs. there is a 22LR class, 7,65 class, 9mm, 10mm, revolver, rimfire open etc, its a thing special to our country, havent heard of anyone else having it, its basicly for smaller guns. I think it dates back to the 70s at least, so its not new urban tactical, I promise The english translation for our slang for it would be something like "small guns that makes you fumble" I have multiple 1050/650s so Im not worried finding the load, but most my shooting is with 2011's in ipsc open and standard division, not glocks, hence my questions on the glock. Thanks for the tips on recoil rod that handles springs designed for older generations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 ano, what country would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Norway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I hear it's pretty cold over there? Spent cases fall into the snow and you don't find them again until spring, well, if the caribou and reindeer don't eat them first...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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