Montana3gunner Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams30gts Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Did you try putting the lock rings for the other dies on the bottom side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? You really can't use dies in the stations beside the trim die/trimmer station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? You really can't use dies in the stations beside the trim die/trimmer station. ^^^ this...unless you make or jury rig your own vacuum head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana3gunner Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Which is what I did, with duct tape. It worked but was pretty ghetto. Wondering if anyone has figured out a better way to do it. There IS a little room there for a better design than Dillons. It's almost like Dillon didn't consider that you might want to put dies next to the trimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You could always buy a 3D printer and design/prototype your own that would allow you to use dies on either side. Then, start selling them on FleaBay to pay off your printer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray999 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? Thanks! Here you go: http://www.gsiinternational.com/300-Blackout-650-Toolhead_8_4243_8649.html You can use it with any trim die. Edited February 16, 2015 by tray999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? Thanks! Here you go: http://www.gsiinternational.com/300-Blackout-650-Toolhead_8_4243_8649.html You can use it with any trim die. I have two of those heads, you can't fit any dies in the stations beside the trimmer on those either, and your flexibility is further restricted as you can only use the trimmer on station #4. But they work great for 300BLK due to the short case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxfo Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? You really can't use dies in the stations beside the trim die/trimmer station. That depends on the die. This one fits. For some applications I take off the primer magazine and move the trimmer to #5, leaving 3 stations available after the trimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I guess I'm rather confused as to why you'd be trimming during loading anyhow. Just risk the chance of brass swarf dropping into the shell casing, which DOES happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxfo Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm confused how you deduced that he wants to trim during loading. I don't see any mention of it in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The OEM Dillon trimmer attachment takes up so much space, I can't get dies next to it... So, I've just been duct taping the vacuum hose onto the trimmer so I can get dies in the stations next to the trimmer. Any ideas/mods etc? You really can't use dies in the stations beside the trim die/trimmer station. That depends on the die. This one fits. For some applications I take off the primer magazine and move the trimmer to #5, leaving 3 stations available after the trimmer. What die do you have in station following the trimmer? Never seen such a short die. Nice use of a Staedtler eraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxfo Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 What die do you have in station following the trimmer? Never seen such a short die. Nice use of a Staedtler eraser. Redding small base body die (with the top cut off), then a Sinclair floating carbide expander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 What die do you have in station following the trimmer? Never seen such a short die. Nice use of a Staedtler eraser. Redding small base body die (with the top cut off), then a Sinclair floating carbide expander. So, it is a small base die (I presume just to size further down to the base?) which was modified to fit in the station beside the vac attachment? I like the execution of the idea but it doesn't really negate my comment in post #3 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana3gunner Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) The reason I posted this question is that I set up a 650 toolhead to process .223 range brass in one pass. No, not loading on the same toolhead. It's currently set up like this: F/L Neck sizer/decapper – this centers the decapper better than some universal decappers and prevents some problems. Also starts the sizing process so it’s not all done in the next dies Small body sizer and GS Custom Swagger – If we’re sizing range brass I think it is important to full body size since we don't know how many times it's been shot. Good for some of my brass too. Trimmer - I probably need to turn the trim die 90 degrees and I might be able to put the lock ring on the underside. Sinclair expander with .224 insert (not “oversized” insert) – This serves two functions, 1) it makes the inside diameter of the necks the same size, regardless of the brass so neck tension is hopefully consistent 2) if there is any burr on the inside of the neck from the trimmer, hopefully it will knock it off. So far, I've processed about 2000 pieces of brass with this set up. I can process about 1000 pieces in 90 minutes. I clean the brass first, then anneal in a Giraud annealer, then lube and throw them in the Dillon casefeeder and run them through this set up. I then clean the lube off in a stainless steel pin tumbler which also cleans the primer pockets and helps with any burrs from trimming. Given this set up, I wonder if the GSI toolhead might just work. Thank you for the ideas, any others are appreciated! Thanks roxfo and tray. Edited February 16, 2015 by Montana3gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raydee38 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does that Gs swager work good for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana3gunner Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 So far so good. You've got to push on the handle pretty good, but so far it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anm2_man Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't think that GSI tool head will work if your trimming .223 vs trimming 300blackout. Since the tool head is designed to trim a 223 case into a 300 blackout, the die actually sits lower and thus the vacuum tube will be in the center of the die to suck the chips out. But when using a standard .223 trim die, the die sits higher and thus the vacuum tube will not be in position to suck anything. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) So far so good. You've got to push on the handle pretty good, but so far it's working. Good to know it is working for you! This is the only thing missing on the 650. Edited February 17, 2015 by Kaskillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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