Wakal Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Just dropped the new trigger group in today...Liota's rifle was built in-house from DPMS parts (upper, lower, chromed bolt carrier group), McCormick trigger assembly, ACE stock, vintage M16 grip, free-float handguard, extensively reprofiled stainless barrel, and of course a F2 compensator The shotgun was also built in-house, and is mostly complete. Saiga 20 with factory 10-round magazines, pistol grip and M4 stock conversion, new trigger group, new safety, and the silly scope mount. It still needs to be set up for choke tubes, have a Doctor sight mounted, and a magazine well...but it is shootable And of course, Liota's Triangle Shooting Sports Open gun in 9 by 23. My own 3-Gun set...the infamous USAS-12 with custom scope rail and EOtech, another in-house rifle (DPMS, FN, Wilson, ACE, JP/JP/JP, and since this picture I have switched to a 1.5-5 Leupold instead of the 3.5-10 shown), and an Open STI in 9 by 23. Not as cool as Liota's stuff, but servicable Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Nice ... very nice. When can I come over to play? And how do you like that ACE stock on the lower rife? Is it the telescoping version, or is it fixed? I can't tell! Can the same Saiga mods be done to a 12ga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 15, 2005 Author Share Posted January 15, 2005 Thanks! The SOCOM Ace is telescoping. I like it a lot more than the M4 style folding stocks...it feels much more solid. It makes it a lot easier to lend my rifle to folks, since they don't have to put up with the superlong stock that my 6'3" frame prefers And yes, you can do the same thing to a Saiga-12...but you have to make your own ten-round magazines instead of just hunting down the factory mags. Not difficult, just VERY labor intensive. Matter of fact, here is my friend Fred's S-12 with ten-round magazines and a JP-style compensator: Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Thanks ... I've handled a rifle with the ACE SOCOM stock and I think it's a lot nicer than the Colt-style stocks too. It's on my "dream list" for my rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 That's cool stuff. Very creative Open class shotguns. Do they work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 16, 2005 Author Share Posted January 16, 2005 The USAS runs like a top, but weighs a bit. The S-20 runs fine, but is a 20 gauge. The S-12 runs fine as long and shoots GREAT (gotta love a gas op with a good comp), as long as the shooter remembers to clean out the gas port now and then The USAS is the easiest to reload, but the hardest to find parts for. The Saigas are easy to find bits for, but are a bit slower on the reload. The Texas State Three Gun (coming up in May) will have a Saiga 12 heads up with a USAS, and a pair of S-20's fighting it out in B class Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Cool. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share Posted January 17, 2005 So far, so good. Top A at both the Texas State and New Mexico State 3-Gun in 2004 Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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