Ty Hamby Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) I have been shooting my 627-4 (38super-minor) 8 shot revolver in L10 minor due to the ghost holster. If I ditch the holster and get a production compliant holster is everything else I have good to go? Here are some items of concern that may not be legal in Production. 1) bobbed hammer? 2) smoothed and rounded trigger? 3) removal of external hammer storage lock? (ILS) 4) removal of internal hammer block? 5) extended cylinder release? 6) Large oversized grip? 7) Moon holder rack can be placed anywhere? 8) empty moon dump pouch on belt. 9) double CR or DAA belt legal? 10) chamber round other than cylinder spec'ed for. (ie. .38short colts in a .38 special chamber)? Anything else that I need to know to keep me from getting in trouble, please let me know. My wife and I have several 627's. All are at various levels of modification. The above is just everything I could think of that one or more has or had done to it. Edited October 4, 2012 by Ty Hamby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm pretty confident in saying that 1, 2, and 5 aren't legal. Also pretty confident in saying that 6, 7, 9 and 10 are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) No, no, no, yes no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Edited October 4, 2012 by Carmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) #4-• ALL factory safety mechanisms, whether internal or external, must remain functional. Removing or disabling firing-pin blocks or any other factory safety mechanism in Production division is specifically prohibited. and UNLESS a modification is SPECIFICALLY authorized in the rules or SPECIFICALLY authorized in an official, published NROI interpretation, it is considered a PROHIBITED MODIFICATION. So, can you show me the rule or ruling that allows removal of the hammer block? I just can't find it. According to S&W the hammer block is a safety. I know there was discussion on this but I just can not find the ruling. Edited October 4, 2012 by Round_Gun_Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosshoss Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The question I have is the Internal LOCK a safety? It is not designed to be used as a safety it is a LOCK. Some of my other guns came with a cable lock that does the same thing as the IL, does it have to be on them to shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The question I have is the Internal LOCK a safety? It is not designed to be used as a safety it is a LOCK. Some of my other guns came with a cable lock that does the same thing as the IL, does it have to be on them to shoot? Yes, unless you can point to a specific section of the appendix that authorizes its removal. Remember, the onus is on the competitor to prove the gun is legal in Production..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The question I have is the Internal LOCK a safety? It is not designed to be used as a safety it is a LOCK. Some of my other guns came with a cable lock that does the same thing as the IL, does it have to be on them to shoot? Bosshoss, I think you're mixing up two separate issues -- 3) the internal lock system, and 4) the hammer block. Removal of the ILS is clearly against the Production rules because it would be an externally visible modification. Removal of the hammer block (which is unquestionably a safety mechanism) is illegal under the rule which RGS correctly cited above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The question I have is the Internal LOCK a safety? It is not designed to be used as a safety it is a LOCK. Some of my other guns came with a cable lock that does the same thing as the IL, does it have to be on them to shoot? Bosshoss, I think you're mixing up two separate issues -- 3) the internal lock system, and 4) the hammer block. Removal of the ILS is clearly against the Production rules because it would be an externally visible modification. Removal of the hammer block (which is unquestionably a safety mechanism) is illegal under the rule which RGS correctly cited above. And as Mike stated, this is for Production NOT revolver division. (and IDPA but that is another issue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 No, no, no, yes no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Reminds me of a girl I knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Hamby Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 OK so Production revolver 1) bobbed hammer? -illegal 2) smoothed and rounded trigger? -illegal 3) removal of external hammer storage lock? (ILS)-illegal 4) removal of internal hammer block? -illegal 5) extended cylinder release?-illegal 6) Large oversized grip? Legal 7) Moon holder rack can be placed anywhere? Legal 8) empty moon dump pouch on belt. Legal 9) double CR or DAA belt legal? Legal 10) chamber round other than cylinder spec'ed for. (ie. .38short colts in a .38 special chamber)? Legal This is what I got out of the above posts. Thanks you! looks like L10 -minor is where we will continue to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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