67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I just bought a Black Ice holster for my G34 to use in Producton just to find out it is NOT legal. Due to the opening exposing the ejection port more than 1/2". I want to modify it to close the opening a little. But is modifying legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCKev Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 If you haven't used it yet I would swap it out for the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The black ice is legal for production. Not legal in idpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 If you haven't used it yet I would swap it out for the right one. I've used it already. Someone pointed out in the rulebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 The black ice is legal for production. I called Blade-tech this morning and they confirmed it as NOT Production legal. You might want to modify yours also . LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Me and the hundreds of others using them. When was it deemed illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was pretty sure that this had been discussed and was already deemed legal. But if Blade Tech says no, they are in a better position to have checked this. So if you already used it, you could put it in the classifieds, someone who shoots Limited can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I just measured mine and the bend on holster starts at 1/2 inch. The tiny triangle is lower but the slide is covered on sides at 1/2 inch. With small triangle exposing 1/4 more. These were definitely sold under the assumption they were production legal. How could this happen when they were designing it? Has this officially been announced that we are all out 65 bucks over a 1/4 in triangle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 So if you already used it, you could put it in the classifieds, someone who shoots Limited can use it. I'm going to keep it because I also have a G35 limited set-up. In fact I've been shooting my G34 in limited(minor) lately. It's just that State Championship is this weekend and I'm entering in Production.So that's why I have to be so anal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Me and the hundreds of others using them. When was it deemed illegal? According to the female who answered the phone @ Blade-tech "we found out just recently". Edited May 10, 2011 by 67 LS1 Camaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We need to confirm this. It's our responsibility to make sure our equipment comply with USPSA rules; however, Blade-tech certainly is not helping. I have three Black-Ice holsters. Me and the hundreds of others using them. When was it deemed illegal? According to the female who answered the phone @ Blade-tech "we found out just recently". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 LS1 Camaro Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) I just measured mine and the bend on holster starts at 1/2 inch. The tiny triangle is lower but the slide is covered on sides at 1/2 inch. With small triangle exposing 1/4 more. I just measured mines also. The cut-out IS 3/4 inch , BUT on the draw ,the muzzle clears at the 1/2 inch mark,the additional 1/4 cut-out is just the sight tunnel. USPSA rules reads: "May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½ below the ejection port" So how should this be interpret? These were definitely sold under the assumption they were production legal. How could this happen when they were designing it? Well, so far I don't see ANY advertising stating that it is Production legal nor it was designed for it.I bought it because I read on THIS forum that it is legal. I got it from reddotshooting and J*******n said it's Production legal .But I'm going how the rules read I would really get upset if I get bump to OPEN: Edited May 10, 2011 by 67 LS1 Camaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTew Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I have the holster also. I contacted bladetech and showed them pictures of the measurements. I then told them what I needed and they remade me another holster so that it fit the production rules. I recommend contacting them, I didn't want to alter it and have it look bad, I am very happy with the new holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I posted on there facebook page. According to the person running that they had no idea it was not legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 This is intensely frustrating. Thanks for letting us know there is a problem ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 All, FYI. Just spoke to the Sales Manager at Blade-tech. BT is aware of the issue and is taking a corrective action. I believe someone from BT will post here soon to confirm this. Action: - If your holster does not meet the 1/2" requirement, call BT customer service and it will replace the holster Background: - When the Black-Ice is produced from the mold, the holster purportedly does meet the 1/2" requirement. It is both IDPA & USPSA legal. - However, to improve aesthetics, a few of the craftsmen filed down the channel/opening to create that "v" appearance; unfortunately, some of the holsters had too much material taken off. In short, bravos to BT for taking a quick corrective action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplaceforyourgun Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Team, The Black Ice holster is designed and manufactured to cover no less than ½” below the ejection port. When the holster comes off the mold, the cutout port/sight channel area is straight. The craftsmen buff and round down the sight channel to bring a sense of symmetry and aesthetic appeal, which on some holsters, can cause them to be out of USPSA specification. The molds are being adjusted by 1/8” to compensate for material being removed from the final buffering process. Furthermore, our craftsmen are now aware and are more cognizant of the material being removed from the final buffering process. If your holster happens to fall under being out of specifications, please contact customer service by: email returns@blade-tech.com or contact us directly by phone toll free: (877)331-5793. We will take care of your concerns immediately. Blade-Tech always strives to provide the best gear available to enhance your shooting experience. Kind Regards, Brian Edited May 10, 2011 by Blade-Tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Wow...very impressive Blade-Tech. Has uspsa officially said that the small v will make the black-ice fail to meet there rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 FWIW...mine is 1/4 in low..might want to adjust it a 1/4 in instead of a 1/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 1 more question: what about the folks that bought one from another store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaute Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I don't believe the "v" in and of itself has anything to do with the USPSA spc. It's just with the excessive buffing or removing of the materials, the measured distance from the nadir of the "V" to the bottom of the ejection port is greater than 1/2", which is the legal limit. Wow...very impressive Blade-Tech. Has uspsa officially said that the small v will make the black-ice fail to meet there rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplaceforyourgun Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) 1 more question: what about the folks that bought one from another store? We warranty all our products. Please contact customer service by: email returns@blade-tech.com or contact us directly by phone toll free: (877)331-5793. We will take care of your concerns immediately. Kind Regards, Brian Edited May 10, 2011 by Blade-Tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplaceforyourgun Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) I don't believe the "v" in and of itself has anything to do with the USPSA spc. It's just with the excessive buffing or removing of the materials, the measured distance from the nadir of the "V" to the bottom of the ejection port is greater than 1/2", which is the legal limit. Wow...very impressive Blade-Tech. Has uspsa officially said that the small v will make the black-ice fail to meet there rules? Correct. The "v" is just for aesthetic appeal. Kind Regards, Brian Edited May 10, 2011 by Blade-Tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 1 more question: what about the folks that bought one from another store? We warranty all our products. Please contact customer service by: email returns@blade-tech.com or contact us directly by phone toll free: (877)331-5793. We will take care of your concerns immediately. Wow..you just don't see that kind of dedication now these days. You have a customer for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I just measured mines also. The cut-out IS 3/4 inch , BUT on the draw ,the muzzle clears at the 1/2 inch mark,the additional 1/4 cut-out is just the sight tunnel. I just re-measured and my muzzle does not clear before the 1/2" mark also. So does this pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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