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  1. 3 minutes ago, motosapiens said:

    To avoid screwing up the most popular division in the sport. Currently CO is popular, and fun, and a diverse array of mfrs are well-represented. This makes it easy to get support and sponsorship dollars from sig and cz and canik and walther. Allowing SAO guns will quickly cause everyone in the division to shoot 2011's (just like every other division where 2011's are allowed). In terms of sponsorship, business, and practicality, it's objectively a losing proposition for the sport.

    I dont disagree with you at all here, but what is the value add to making this an entirely new division? 

  2. I'm a little late to the party here but I just cannot see the justification for this being its own division. The hit factors are going to be the exact same as CO. What is the point of making an entirely new division if its performance is going to be indistinguishable from an already established one?

  3. 17 hours ago, Bakerjd said:

    Or I'm bad at writing it out in decimals. Would .1c be 10/100 of a dollar or would 0.1c 1/100th of a dollar? 

     

    Either way they were about 9cent each. 

    480.3 dollars divided by 5000 primers will give you the dollars per primer. multiply by 100 to get cents per primer. 

     

    $480 / 5000 = $.096 

     

    $.096 * 100 = 9.6 cents per primer

     

    So no, about 10 cents each not 9 cents each- if you're going to round that drastically lol

     

  4. Our club will do a bulk order type deal every once and a while, they'll pick a design pattern and you can customize it with logos and names etc the way you like. Cost us 70 dollars from zero sports. Talk with your MD and see if they've done anything like that in the past or if they'd be willing to try it out.

  5. 35 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:

    I can go into retail stores now and there is typically some sort of Primer sitting on the shelves.  Things are getting better.

    I get in stock notifications for primers several times a day now on the discord server. Price has gone from 11-12 cents per shipped down to <9 and continuing to drop. Things are most definitely getting better 

  6. I mean this question is already answered in limited, all you're doing is adding a dot. You can choose to shoot 9mm for capacity or you can shoot major. Major is far and away the better choice over the extra 3 or so rounds. Now I dont see all the CO shooters being happy about suddenly dropping money on .40 guns in this hypothetical scenario but if you wanted to be competitive you would have to. 

     

    The reason the choice is significant in SS is because it's a low cap division and those extra few rounds can make a huge difference when planning out reloads etc. 

  7. 1 hour ago, Boomstick303 said:

    I do not agree with this at all.  What on earth makes them feel this way?  I think CO is so popular because of everything that has previously been mentioned.  Cheap guns, minor therefore ammo is cheap and available, a dot so the learning curve to hit stuff is reduced drastically.  Its the easy button of participating in the division that has made it so popular not because people feel its a superior division.  Especially for new people.  

     

    I've brought 3 new shooters into this sport in the past year. All of them picked CO, but only one of them was a dot shooter prior to starting. The other 2 put dots on their guns because CO was the only division they felt like they could shoot with their 9mm. New USPSA shooters dont understand the concept of low cap prod because they weren't around when it was popular and it just sounds dumb to them- those are the shooters that chose CO by default because they "have to" in their minds. They both went and bought 200 dollar dots to compete in CO because they didn't have another option. 

     

    Obviously this is just anecdotal but it happens. I bring lots of new shooters to the range to teach them about guns- I'm known as the competition shooting gun among my classmates so when people interested in getting a gun, I'm the one they normally end up talking to. Most of these people are clueless about the idea of putting a dot on their gun. People in the enthusiast set tend to think that dots are the default but in my experience that simply isn't the case. 

  8. Just now, Racinready300ex said:

     

    This is already happening. If you want competition CO is really the only option. There a a lot of local level matches where 90% of the shooters will be in CO and the remaining is split between the other 7 divisions. That makes it pretty likely you'll be the only person in your class in any division but CO. Majors, there will be more GM's in CO than shooters in L10, Revo and maybe SS combined. 

     

     

    That's my point. I think a lot of people attribute CO's popularity to it being a superior division, when in reality a good number of people are only shooting it because they feel like they have to. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:

    Is this the rules and/or type of guns being allowed in any one division or does it have more to do with the gun market in general?

     

    I believe it has a lot to do with the rules. CO is the only high capacity division where you can be competitive with minor. People want to shoot cheap ammo. People want to load their mags all the way up. I dont think it really has anything to do with minutia of the gun, more so to do with the broader rule set. 

     

    If there was an iron sight division that allowed high cap minor to be competitive, I think a lot of people would be shooting it. More would be shooting CO because of the popularity of the dot of course, but it would be popular none the less. 

  10. 52 minutes ago, MHicks said:

    Some shooters are shooting in divisions because they want as much competition as possible vs shooting the gun they actualky like to shoot the most. I'm getting set up for CO too.

    I do believe that a division can reach a critical mass where people begin shooting it not because they want to, but because it's the only place where they feel they have competition. I believe having the majority of people shooting one division takes away from the diversity of equipment and guns that can be run and makes the sport less fun overall. I dont think there is any reason to make the most popular division even more popular. People clearly enjoy it as it is, stop sucking away competitors from other divisions for the sake of it. 

  11. 16 hours ago, GrumpyOne said:

    Not necessarily the shellplate, but the bolts holding the plate to the top of the ram. Your shellplate can be tight enough to where it won't move, but if those bolts are loose, under the shellplate, the entire assembly can tilt.

    I will take a look thank you!

  12. 3 minutes ago, GrumpyOne said:

    It sounds like maybe the shellplate is tipping when you go to seat/crp the bullet

     

    Shell plate is as tight as possible while still able to index if that is what you are referring to. 

     

    1 minute ago, GrumpyOne said:

    What bullet are you using?

     

    Summers enterprises 180 gn .40. This bullet has a lube groove which may be contributory. Not having this issue on different manufacturers with the same diameter and no lube groove 

  13. Returning with an update, this issue is caused by crooked bullet seating and the case being scuffed by the crimp die where the bullet is slightly bulged to one side. This happens a lot with the specific bullet manufacture I recently switched to, cannot get these bullets to seat straight. Having to switch to another manufacturer to avoid this, been having feeding issues like never before. 

  14. Just ordered a sample pack and need some help deciding on an OAL to run. My trusted OAL in my TSO is 1.130. These brass monkey rounds are passing the plunk test all the way out to 1.188. I understand that the TSO will have feeding/ ejection issues past around 1.170 and I've seen that the TS mags work with a max around 1.135-1.140. 

     

    My question is if I load down to the 1.14-1.15 range, will my jump to lands distance be too far? 

     

    Anyone running this bullet in their TSO that can share their OAL? 

     

    Thanks!

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