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No guessing required. If you're in the open and you go to slidelock, you can't begin your reload until you get to cover - period. In the best of all possible worlds, the CoF designer would've taken that into consideration and permitted any remaining steel to be engaged from cover.
So if out in the open, you run dry, you have to retreat to cover?
From page 76, IDPA rule book
Cover: 1) More than 50% of the shooter’s upper torso must be
behind cover while engaging threat targets and/or reloading. For
low cover, one knee must be on the ground and for vertical cover
such as a wall/barricade, 100% of the shooter’s legs and feet must
be behind cover.
All reloads must be executed from cover (if cover is available) and
must be completed before leaving cover. A shooter is deemed
loaded and may move from a position of cover ONLY when the
fresh magazine is FULLY SEATED and the slide is fully forward
or revolver cylinder is closed. Shooters may not move from one
position of cover to another with an empty gun. Reloads must be
completed from cover, however this does not mean that a shooter
must duck back completely behind cover to reload before
reengaging targets from a stationary firing point. The contestant
may keep his eyes on his next “opponent” as long as he follows the
definition of cover and does not expose too much of his body to
the next threat target.
"Serpentine Shelly. Serpentine!"
The In-Laws 1979
Where's Bones?
I'm confused.................
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reamer & a good gun plumber is all that is needed,
and what a Great choice I must say!
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I think this should be in "humor",
we may have a Joker
or
Of course you could simply be mis-informed............
There are no case feeders for SQ deals
other than your right hand....
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Use a Bedell,
or look for real small wiper blades!
That baby is going to catch some flame!
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Sounds like a training issue.
I don't claim to know how it works, but they use it here in the Northeast pretty effectively.
Harvard MA uses it for local matches & the scores are up before I get home.
They read the final hits & time to the shooter before they end the stage.
In twenty years I have had plenty of "mistakes" made on my scores the old fashion way.
Give ot another chance
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I started in 88,
Seemed like a lot less shots per stage, with much farther shooting.
(our flintlocks took a long time to load!)
Usually went prone & had standards (30-50 yards).
Almost always shooting boxes, not many free fire zones.
Looking back, it seems boring compared to the high round count & great props we have today.
It was great fun & got us where we are today!
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Dan Bedell said it best:
Trust your dot.
Me repeating it is easy, learning to ALWAYS do it, takes some work
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In 9x21 1.2250 oval, I use 9.0 grains of 540 (same as HS6) 169PF in my Bedell shorties.
Start at 8.5 & crony.........
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9x19, good web name!
I like it for some reason.....................
Welcome
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RL1050 w/KISS
Super 1050 w/KISS
Square deal .45
Square deal 9MM
Sqaure deal .38/.357
Sqaure deal .38 Super
If I can't get it done with those,
than I go over Lopez' house!
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Congrats!
Keep it up!
9X21
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Looks like Dan the Man's work all right................
I like it!
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2-2.5 hour ONE Way to both Harvard MA, Manville RI.................
Shoot or stay home..........................................
I'd rather shoot!
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I have followed this closely and read every argument. My question would be what is the experience of the RO and is he truly a NROI certified RO or a shooter with a timer?
We all know help is hard to find for matches and sometimes you do not have a person with the proper experience making these calls. I would like to know the answer on this one.
closer look at our RO:
Joined: 11/21/06
RO Certification: Range Officer
RO Certification date: 9/10/07
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it is like a Twinkie...........
good forever
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You cannot DQ a person because the RO was unable to get into a position where they could easily detemine that the finger was definitely out of the guard. Saying that it is the shooters responsibility to make it visible is not acceptable because he cannot control (or even be aware) of the RO's position.
I agree.
Maybe we can all paint our fingernails a nice bright color
I think the real issue in this case was the shooter engaging anything?
And what is engagement?
One look at that stage, and there was plenty to shoot at while moving.
and that is where the problem with fingers & free fire zones begins........IMHO of course
Oh yeah, I shot that stage soon after the incident.
You can bet I was thinking about my finger all the time!
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Juniors are DQ'd for lying about their age by the time I'm done....................
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I think 5 minutes is fine, but RO's need to let only the on deck shooter on the range soon as range is clear. That also includes the RO's staying out of the way, so the next shooter can finalize his plan.
If you're finalizing your plan when you're on deck, you're already toast...that's the point I'm trying to make.
If you need more than 5 minutes + "on deck time"
you need to shoot bullseye.(you will know the course years in advance)
Toast, maybe............
I like Jiff on my toast. (some folks like Skippy)
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I think 5 minutes is fine, but RO's need to let only the on deck shooter on the range soon as range is clear. That also includes the RO's staying out of the way, so the next shooter can finalize his plan.
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Which stage was this on? There were a lot of stages this past weekend with a lot of movement. I was working stage 1 and we spoke to a few shooters regarding safety but nothing bad at all. A couple of close calls with fingers on triggers while reloading but a quick mention to the shooter after shooting and all is good. We saw very few issues and none where the shooter should have been DQ'ed.
Pete
see stage 6
http://www.uspsa.org/results/2008/Area_7_C...ages/Stages.pdf
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The rule dates back to days of old when we shot from box A to Box B etc..
(in the box you were engaging, outside you were "MOVING")
As matches have gone to 30-50 YARD FREE FIRE ZONES, that come to no where near "8 rounds from any one position"
rule 1.2.1.2 “Medium Courses” must not require more than 16 rounds to
complete and no more than 3 shooting locations. Course design
and construction must not require more than 8 scoring hits from
any single location or view, nor allow a competitor to shoot all
targets in the course of fire from any single location or view.
1.2.1.3 “Long Courses” in Level III or higher matches must not require
more than 32 rounds to complete. Course design and construction
must not require more than 8 scoring hits from any single
location or view, nor allow a competitor to shoot all targets in
the course of fire from any single location or view.
It may be time to re-visit the rule,
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That's right, I just hate it. This time he has gone too far with his Blizzard thread. Those of us that just love those tasty treats and can not eat them any more must rebel and stop this teasing once and for all.
I am down 35 pounds and see no blizzard in my future unless it is weather related so
KNOCK IT OFF JAY IT JUST ISN'T FAIR!!!!!
Gary, we are all over weight by at least two Blizzards,
You may have salt free popcorn instead.............................
and the Lite Beer of your choice...........
My concern is also this "Dairy Queen" guy. Is he from P'Town or Key West??
As for lite beer, this is as lite as I go
If your over weight...........
It doesn't matter what beer you drink
Vibra prime or quickie prime
in non-Dillon Reloading Equipment
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