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From the instruction sheet. These are the critical details for future vistors: Steel Challenge Banners These dry fire training aids are designed to be used at a distance of 10’ except for Five To Go, Smoke & Hope and Speed Option banners which are designed for use at 5’, all with the correct reduced target sizes and proper lateral spacing between targets. The 5’ training distance for these three banners was needed to keep them from becoming excessively large and costly. Included with your banners are 3 binder clips. Simple attach the clips along the top edge of the banner where you see a small red dot and then hang the clips on hooks located on your wall. Spacing for the clips has been designed so that you can hang banners for all stages except Outer Limits using just 3 hooks. See spacing chart at the end of these instructions for locations. Outer Limits requires you to set up shooting boxes 6’ apart and so those banners will not line up with the others. We like using the Scotch Command Removable Utility Hooks that you can purchase at places like Lowes, Home Depot or Wal-Mart but just about any hanging hook will work. Simply mount the hooks on the wall and whenever you want to dry fire you just hang the banner on the hooks using the binder clips and you’re ready to go. Each banner has a small white mark along the bottom edge to indicate where the middle of the shooting box should be located for those stages where the stop plate is not centered in the stage. The banner height should be set so that the top of the circular plates is at 5’ for all stages. If you plan to dry fire in your garage you can locate the banner hooks on the garage door at a convenient height and then simply use your garage door opener to quickly and easily adjust the banner to the proper height. For Showdown, there are two different banners, one for each of the two shooting boxes. Simply select the appropriate banner for either the right or left box to practice. For Outer Limits, since there is movement involved, the two banners were designed to be used side-by-side. In this way you will see the appropriate view from the appropriate box when you move into position. Also, since you can only shoot plates 1 & 2 starting from the left (right hand shooter) box or plates 4 & 5 starting from the right (left hand shooter) box, those banners only have a partial view showing just those plates. The same goes for the view from the center box. To dry fire this stage you’ll need to setup two 4’ shooting boxes 6’ apart. You then locate either the left or right shooting box banner on the wall centering the white mark on the banner with the shooting box and then position the center view banner white mark so it is lined up with the center of the other shooting box. See the diagram below for the layout details.

Yeah, it appears that the hole pattern on the MK IV, 22/45, and Scorpion is all the same. Black Mamba being a MK IV lower makes sense there. As an aside, I pulled the grips off my kids MK IV 22/45 and they also line up with my full size Kimber 1911. So aside from the minor indents for bolt release etc any of these replacement grips should work.

I see them for the WMR - will those cross over to the 1911 frame?

This is from classification scoring page on scsa.org. Note number 6. Although similar to the USPSA classification system in concept, the Steel Challenge classification system is independent of the USPSA classification system and has its own policies, as follows: Only stages that bear "SC" numbers (SC-101, SC-102, etc.) are used for classification. A minimum of four stages per division are required for classification. Stages will not be included in the classification calculation until the activity fee for that match has been paid by the club hosting the match. If you have shot a stage more than once, your best stage time will count. A stage time is the aggregate time for the stage from a match (total of the best 4 of 5, or 3 of 4, times for the stage in a match). Only stages shot in the current or previous two calendar years are used for classification. All classifiers are included in the initial classification run on July 4, 2016, without regard to the two calendar year limit. This was done so that competitors who had a high score from a match more than two calendar years ago, and before this classification system was released, would get the classification those scores earned. Your classification percentage can go down, however, once you earn a classification (A, B, etc.) it will not go down. Stages that have been assigned a default of 30 seconds per string (120 seconds on a 5 string stage, 90 on a 4 string stage) are considered DNFs and are not included in your classification calculation. Your classification percentage is calculated as follows: Your total time for all classifier stages that you shot is added up The total "peak times" for the stages you shot is added up Your percentage is defined as total_peak_time/total_stage_time Your percentage is mapped to a classification USPSA headquarters cannot process manual corrections to scores. If a score or division is incorrect, contact the match director and request corrected scores be uploaded. If a score cannot be correct, USPSA staff can mark it "invalid" (not to be used in classification) Classifications are calculated early Wednesday AM on a weekly basis. This time was chosen to minimize the chances of a classification changing during a match

Me and my son were talking about this at Worlds. When your classification is made up of the best 8 stages over the last two years, stringing that kind of run across all 8 into a single match is very daunting. So, shooting to my classification has always been my goal at a higher tier match... shoot to my classification on the whole. If I can do that and maybe improve a single stage score - that's a great match for me. A major caveat however is right after moving up. Going from A to M for example, suddenly you've created a much harder goal - but hopefully, that comes along after shooting an A in any given match is no longer that big of a challenge. I for one, like the classification system, it sets good intermediate goals other than just clock times.

Xtreme has a number of things in stock - https://www.xtremebullets.com/

Looking at picking up a scorpion for steel challenge. I've never been a big fan of finger groove style hogues and don't want huge target style. What simple panel grips are available for the scorpion 1911 frame? Is the profile same as a regular 1911 or the Ruger MK IV or is the screw pattern / grip profile unique to the scorpion frame?

I focus on limited and production in USPSA but try single stack occasionally. Ammo, I was really lucky to get stocked up on primers and projectiles right before all the madness hit. That said, stocks are getting low. I've probably got two seasons worth - hoping it lasts.

Awesome, thanks for the info. We're planning to stay through the whole weekend. We shoot Friday AM on Squad 44 Outer Limits.

Me and my son have been shooting steel challenge over the past 18 months or so and just love it. I've been shooting USPSA for a few years but never at a nationals. Having shot our state match (Colorado) two years in a row, plus local matches and rim-fire challenges as often as we can we decided to bite the bullet and registered for the National match at Talladega in April. We're very excited to see the big stage!! Since this is my first year - I'm curious about the format and logistics. We signed up for Friday slot but I'm hoping to be able to stick around Saturday and Sunday to watch as well. How late in the day does shooting and awards usually go? Is the format good for spectators? Should I plan a flight home that night or the next morning, or is it even worth staying through awards? My son is a C class shooter and I'm an A but we're both in the middle of our classes so we're not expecting to place. What about vendors, swag, prizes? Should I be saving up my money to hit vendor booths for gear or planning an empty bag to bring home swag?? Not really concerned either way, our main concern is shooting and learning, but curious about what to expect!!

Been benefitting from information on the site for a couple years now - finally decided to start interacting. I'm a B class USPSA and A class Steel Challenge shooter. Love the site.