Morphire
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How about these?
Those appear to be Fillister head (FH in the title) screws so no counter sync. I looked at those before I made my recommendation of the oval heads. Red loc tite can be removed with heat. you dont' have to drill them out. The slotted head screws could still work fine with red loc tite if nothing else looks doable.
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Posting this for a fellow shooter GM. His gun has been in the shot for over a month waiting on 5 screws to mount the C-More. The screws supplied with the Cheely mount did not fit the gun. Need 5 screws size is #6-48 1/2 long with Allen or Torx, Star head and counter sunk.
We have looked everywhere no wild goose hunts please.
PM if you have some or send info if you know where some are.
Would this work?
Kevin
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Hit or miss
starting heels at rear of fault line.
Take the two no shoots out from behind the ports and you open up an interesting solution for the 10 round limited shooters. They can opt for one less reload and offer some more freestyle to the mix. Just my thoughts as a Production shooter. Let them got for 4 targets through the ports as an option. A slower option agreed, but it brings the element of knowing your game into your plan instead of forcing three from this position, then three from this position, then three... you see where I'm going.
Excellent work and thread! Gets my brain meats all squishy!
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We've decided to do one. to make it easy for all.
Same rules, same scoring, same price, same no prizes. just come shoot.
5 stages from point blank range, out to maybe 300 yds.
More details very soon.
HOP
Forgive me but for those that don't know who you are, could you tell us where the match would be held?
We tend to do this a lot on these forums. Post stuff without some basics for those that don't know everyone or the new folks. I appreciate the follow up! =]
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Great thread! I've learned a bunch just reading through it. I do tend to agree that a fresh discussion takes into account today's thoughts and views. Even if a search was reviewed, I'd still like to get perspective on what people think today or any new views that may have surfaced. Okay off my soap box.
Reading through this I can see a definite separation between the views of the very experienced Master and GM shooters and long standing CROs and the rest of us. =] I also see a difference between the needs of a local Level I match and those of a Level II or III match.
Big matches tend to put a CRO in front of a lot of shooters they are not familiar with. They don't have history enough to know what their preferences are so that is further persuasion to maintain a strict adherence to the Range Commands specified in the rules only. I think all of us agree that there shouldn't be anything other than the specific range commands once Make Ready is given. The question comes up then whether any conversation is needed before hand. Well at a Level II/III match, the CRO is usually matted to a coterie of RO's that cover reset, scoring, crowd management, and safety. My admittedly inexperienced self seems to think that the Scoring RO calls the shooter to the line by name and confirms that shooter called matches the score sheet on the clipboard. No conversation necessary from the CRO. The shooter enters the start area and the CRO visually checks with his RO's for the thumbs up that they are ready and that downrange is clear. Again nothing verbal. The CRO then gives Make Ready as their first communication to the ready shooter. Managing keeping the CRO safe and in the proper place to manage the shooter is the CRO's responsibility.
Asking the shooter which way they are going to turn just sets the CRO up for reliance on information that may or may not be realized by the fact of the situation once the buzzer goes off. Not knowing seems to be a better starting place for the CRO so they are forced to pay as close attention as possible. This is something new I've come to realize just with reading through this thread so thank you to everyone for the excellent lesson. =]
I see the "Going Hot" statement to be part of announcing the end of the 5 minute review after telling everyone to clear the range. Say it once and not again.
Local Level I matches usually have the RO's embedded as part of the squad. They tend to know the shooters and can establish what is preferred. They don't tend to have no more than one other RO that is covering scoring so I tend to agree that flexibility is more the norm in that situation.
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Me thinks you might have posted to the wrong forum my friend. This is for 3-gun/multi-gun match announcements unless I've missed something.
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Okay a quick update. I have the match Results posted on the website so you can see the combined results for both overall and stage by stage. I also posted the individual division results if you prefer to look at them there instead of on USPSA.org. I'll have the winner's list posted tomorrow. Today got away from me for time I'm afraid. Thank you for your patience everyone.
Oh and to answer the question about the STI Guardian in the Competitor raffle... it was won by shooter #58, Thomas Taylor FY52523. Mark should be in contact with him if he isn't already so we can get his shiny new prize into his hands in short order. I can't tell you how impressed I was with our sponsor's this year. The products and support they showed our match was astounding! If you need to buy anything for your gun or shooting, please check them first to see if you can give back a little of what they so generously gave.
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I love the chronograph portion of the match book! Someone put some wit into this one
Danké!
Sure beats a Boot to the Head!
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I'm confused. How are the 2009 Winners already listed in the matchbook??? Did this match already take place?
i think that was last year results
Nope!! That would be a mistake on my part with my clumsy fingers. Those are last year's results with 2009 accidentally typed instead of 2008. I just corrected it and tweaked the output settings to get the targets to show up better with their borders more defined so feel free to reDL the matchbook file for an improved set of stage diagrams.
Thanks for the catch, Chris! =]
Kevin
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MATCHBOOK!!
The matchbook is now online at www.GAStateChampionships.com for your viewing pleasure.
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STAGES!!
The preliminary stage designs are posted at www.GAStateChampionship.com under the stages tab. Please be aware that these have been submitted for approval and are subject to change. It's only PDF file containing all of the stages.
Enjoy!
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The Match Hotel information including links and google map directions for the hotel and the range are all updated on the website.
www.GAStateChampionships.com (the plural or the singular now works to direct you to the proper website)
or you can get to it linking through the host USPSA club's website at
Entry forms are at the website and stages will be posted there upon completion. There is even a link to this thread so hopefully we keep everyone well connected and informed.
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I remember you!!!! i'm just poking the bear as well.
no harm, no foul!!!!!
I'd like to meet mister Manning!!!!!
Trapr
I dare say you'll like Mr. Manning. He's definitely a favored son around these parts. I don't shy away or kid when I say he's one of the finest young gentlemen I've ever had the pleasure to meet, much less shoot with. And I'm not just saying that because he keeps on kicking my butt on a regular basis either!
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Mine went through the first try with no errors. Just patiently awaiting my email to find out how I did. =]
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Well the suck can begin now. The cut off day for slot processing was after a national holiday. And apparently my post office sucks even more than normal. But still the mail went out post marked on the 26th. BUT! mail being post marked on the 26th wasn't good enough as Sedro-Wolley decided it had to be at the office by the 26th and not postmarked buy the 26th! Oh and to add insult to injury, they would have accepted a phone order using my credit card but no where on the slot form is that mentioned so I didn't even know it was an option. *crap*
So now my option is to sign up for the waiting list. BUT the waiting list was opened 10 DAYS BEFORE the slots were voided so those of us caught in the middle got screwed. Why was the wait list open before the slots were voided?? If it'd been opened after the slots were voided then those that had something happen to our slots could have at least gotten on the list with equal footing as everyone else. One. Thing. After. Another.
So now I go and sign up for the wait list and pay my $25 online. If they have an online payment engine then why wasn't that available for those wishing to pay for an earned slot as well? *crap again*
So anyway. I pay my $25 and then go and check the Classification page and see this message at the top of the page.
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You have accepted a slot for the Open, Production 10 match.
$25 of your $270 registration fee has been paid. Due to an error on the web system, you were not charged the current price. We will have instructions on how to pay the remaining $20.00 up here shortly. Your match registration is confirmed based on the payment received.
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So I have to call up and find out that it's another of the many computer glitches and I still do NOT have a slot but now I don't even know what number I am on the list! *frustrating!*
Yes I have emailed Matt, but he's on vacation for the week...
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...Unfortunately a mechanical inconsistency made them throw out one stage...
Which stage, Nemo? I shot the match on Friday and had to head back to Atlanta that same evening so I hadn't heard what happened on Saturday. There were a lot of mechanicals on the sages but they were all working rather well for us on Friday. I hate to see something like that affect a stage/match that was otherwise a blast to shoot and well worth the time and effort put into making it to the match. =[
Stage 5 (Pressure is On) with a pressure plate that activated 2 appearing - disappearing targets was deleted from the match because the action required to activate the targets was dramatically different for different shooters. Some activated the targets with one foot on the pad & others had to step on the pad, while others "danced" on the pad or literally hopped up and down. While the pressure activation pad had been used at local matches with 60 shooters, and held up well Friday (with about 60 shooters), it did not continue to operate consistantly on Saturday (with 137 shooters). The Range Master, Match Director and Chief Statistician met and decided that we had to remove the stage from the match.
Linda Chico (L-2035)
2009 SC State Match Statistician
Thanks for the update, Linda. That's a shame since the stage was not only a blast to shoot but one of my better stages. LOL Oh well... these things happen.
Thank you, and Jack, and the entire crew for putting on such a great match. It was my first SC Section match but will definitely not be my last. I already have my calendar marked for next year! =]
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...Unfortunately a mechanical inconsistency made them throw out one stage...
Which stage, Nemo? I shot the match on Friday and had to head back to Atlanta that same evening so I hadn't heard what happened on Saturday. There were a lot of mechanicals on the sages but they were all working rather well for us on Friday. I hate to see something like that affect a stage/match that was otherwise a blast to shoot and well worth the time and effort put into making it to the match. =[
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You're not wrong --- but squibs are covered in the chapter on competitor equipment (Section 5.7 specifically). Safety type stops are in Chapter 8 (range commands) and in Chapter 10 (Dqs....)
I do tend to think of them differently --- if a competitor blows up a gun, he's most likely the only person getting hurt --- and most likely will be hurt as opposed to injured. That's bad, but doesn't rise to the potential level of damage involved in breaking one or more of the safety rules enumerated in Chapter 10......
Thanks for the clarification, Nik. =]
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I've always preached to take the support hand toward the holster. Most ignored that in favor of the "go to the place where you clap your hands in front of your chest" line of thinking.
To me, it makes sense to get the other hand on the gun as soon as possible. One, you have more time to correct a flubbed grip. Two, once you are done getting that hand on there...you are done with that...you are free to move on to the next thing with whatever amount of attention that might have been sucking up.
Frex,
Do you have any video of this from your archives? I tend to bring my support hand up high on my chest and since you and Ben have got me thinking I'd enjoy seeing a different perspective. Always learning...
Thanks!
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You are right, it does say "may" It's my opinion that they left it "may" to keep someone from trying to run over an RO to get a reshoot.
Bingo --- I've had that conversation with the rules writers, and that was the wording that allowed for balance.....
Also, if an RO needs to issue the "Stop" command for a safety issue, either a match dq or a reshoot are called for --- there really are no other options....
Am I missing something or does a squib not fit that last statement. If I suspect a squib and call stop, and then with a subsequent check of that gun it shows that it was in fact a squib, then there is no reshoot and there is no match dq. Just a stage scored from that point on. Do I have a misunderstanding of that safety "Stop" circumstance? Not trying to be obtuse but I know I'm a lot less experienced and that last statement caught me off guard.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Only the shooter can determine if a cell phone was a distraction or not, and if it was he should have stopped right then, not after he shot the stage. Flex$ could not be any more right, it has no business on the COF and out of respect for the competitors the RO should have left the phone in the car.
I have to disagree. A shooter should never stop himself unless he's willing to take a zero on the stage if the RO disagrees with his reasoning. If I think I've shot a squib then yes, I'll stop myself due to a safety concern, but otherwise I'm going to keep on going. If I stop myself because I think I know the situation better than the RO, then I'm always going to run the risk of a zeroed stage. The shooter should have shot the course of fire and then politely discuss it with the RO per 8.6.4 to see what the RO wishes to do, IMO.
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Hey Guys, I'm realitively new to the forum. Am shooting my first IPSC this Saturday with my Beretta 96 FS. I have Pacmayer wrap around grips on my weapon. Is this going to pose a problem for me? I will be shooting 180 grain Speer FN pushed by 5.2 grains of Bullseye. Any thoughts? I already loaded 200 rounds for this weekend. I have no chrono data on the load but literature search and graphing yield a PF that could put me in Minor.
Any feedback from Beretta shooters would be appreciated.
The USPSA rule book is a great place to find answers to questions about your equipment and what is considered legal for use in the different divisions.
http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf
That gun could probably be shot in Production, Limited 10 or Limited. The most restrictive division is Production so it's got the most limitations as far as equipment goes. You can learn about it in Appendix D4 and further in Appendix E2-4. One thing though is that all Production shooters are scored minor so even if that load makes major, it won't help your scoring any if you shot Production. But, if you are wanting to shoot in Limited or Limited 10 class then you will see the benefit. Get your load chrono'd soon if you can and verify that you're making major.
To be honest though, at a local match when you are just starting out, bring what you have and shoot. Get the experience and pay far more attention to the safety and scoring rules. As you get some experience and ask the zillion question that you'll have, you will hone you gear down to something that works well for you and is legal in your chosen division tool. Move in small bumps and ask the more experienced shooters around what has worked for them. You will save yourself a lot of headache, time and money. Welcome to the sport!
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Manufacturers define what they believe to be a safety on their firearms. Their opinions vary based on many different factors; lawyers, marketing, engineering, etc. USPSA deals with the whole spectrum, and I believe it would be impossible to resolve a definition encompassing all of them without getting just silly. I believe as an organization they can identify those mechanisms they see are NOT safeties and document this as they have recently done.
I've been trying to come up with an exception, but I can't think of a manufacturer's safety device that doesn't adhere to the definition of "a device that when engaged 1) prevents the trigger sears being disengaged or 2) prevents the firing pin contacting the primer of a loaded round without the trigger sears being disengaged". I'm just one mind though so maybe there is a manufacturer's safety out there that doesn't fit this definition. Can anyone think of one that doesn't fit? Maybe it doesn't change anything but I'm assuming the BOG has some sort of methodology for determining what is and isn't a safety now since they've used it already to exempt one type.
2010 PSA Shootout -- Palmyra PA
in Match Announcements - Pistol Only - USPSA, IPSC & Misc.
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Now if we only knew what a PSA shootout was or where said registration is located, then we might be going somewhere. =]
It's often a frustration reading this thread that everyone assumes that everyone nows where such and such range is located or where such and such match is normally held. You'd get better responses IMO if you put your city and staget right up front in the match announcement starting the thread. That way those of us either new to a region or the sport can figure out what options we have easier.
Forgive the thread drift and the minor rant, but I am actually on topic as I'm curious what match you're talking about and where it is. =]
Thanks!
Kevin
Area 6
Chamblee, GA