Sdlrodeo
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1 hour ago, motosapiens said:
did you put an overlay on it? oftentimes the grease ring or hole won't touch the perf, but the overlay still will.
Truth
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Could it be a one-off? Maybe because it was the no-shoot side perhaps the perf cutters hit at an angle for that batch or that particular target?
i have not heard of any official changes.
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43 minutes ago, egd5 said:
If I understand you right Sdlrodeo, you're asking, if the target is less than 10 ft. from shooter how close(or far from) to the target does the the ad have to be before it is a dq?
For example, if the target is 4 ft. in front of the shooter but the shooter hits the ground 6 ft to the left of the target while swinging to the target, but still within 10 ft of him is that an ad subject to dq?
That’s close, but I’m assuming from the OP, that the shooter was drawing to the target that is closer than 10 feet.
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3 hours ago, mreed911 said:
That's what the berm is for.
Then I’d invite you to read my thread from a while back. I put a link to it earlier in this post.
3 hours ago, mreed911 said:Not necessarily. Lots of people intend for a gun to go off an actually score a Mike. If it's an AD, an RO can call that, stop the shooter and deal with the situation. It's going to vary based on the shooter's actions at the time and what the RO saw that caused the stoppage/DQ. There are procedures to argue that further, too.
Draw the line at the rules. 10.4 covers this pretty well. A good reading and/or an RO class can help cement your understanding. The rules also cover course construction, target placement and engagement.
I know you don’t know me from Adam but Yep, I took an RO class last summer and just re-read 10.4 just in case, I still think the OP’s scenario is not clarified.
We have a few folks (I’m assuming they have taken an RO class but maybe not) commenting it would be a DQ’able AD to hit the dirt in front of a shooters foot even if the target is three feet away and we have others who say the rules do not say it is because of the second part of 10.4.2
Rule 10.4.2 states, "A shot which strikes the ground within 10 feet of the competitor, except when shooting at a cardboard target closer than 10 feet to the competitor."
so so my question is still, where to draw the line?
lets push the target out to 5 feet in our mock scenario. What if the bullet hits the ground at 2.5 feet?
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11 minutes ago, race1911 said:
In my opinion it is poor course design to put targets 1,2, or 3 feet away from the shooter...........closing in on unsafe and what challenge is it anyways because you don't have to aim but merely point shoot (I do understand there are rare instances such as a short wall you run up to with targets on the ground just behind the wall, OR no-shoots making partial targets MIGHT be barely acceptable, but still not necessary and these could be put further distances away)
I agree 100%. I used that as an example to try to illustrate my point.
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59 minutes ago, mreed911 said:
Missing between targets and hitting the back berm isn't an infraction.
I agree.
What if a prop is hit between the targets and but the bullet passes through and hits the back berm?
I would argue that if there are 2 targets 10 feet away from each other and someone puts a round downrange right in the middle it would be an AD in the sense that the shooter did not want the gun to go off at that time. But, per the rules, it is not an infraction or DQ’able offense but it would still be an AD by most accounts.
Is that unsafe gun handling because the gun went off when the shooter did not intend it to?
Is that “moving” because the shooter is changing arrays even though his feet didn’t move?
My point is where to draw the line? If the rules state less than ten feet is ok if target is less than ten feet. If target is 3 feet and low on the ground, is 2 feet ok? 1 foot? What if the target is only 2 feet away?
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I’m going to play devils advocate. Where do you draw the line?
if there are two targets 10 feet apart and a shooter misses in between or on the outside of said targets did he AD? He didn’t want the gun to go off before or after the target but it did. What if he missed the target by 6”? 12”? 2 feet?
or, let’s go with the example of a low target 3 feet away from the shooter with or without some sort of barrier/low wall/handrail in between? What if he hit the barrier that was only a foot away from the shooter but in line with the target?
ill admit this thread hits home a little bit. See mine below.
where do you draw the line?
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1 hour ago, blackfatbob said:
Preview the stages before the match if possible, but not actively planning at this point. Just looking for the path and the reload
Walk through as many times as possible during squad walk through (planning)
In the hole - chalk up, ready equipment, and rehearse in place (imprint)
On deck - rehearse in place behind the score keeper (imprint)
While scoring the shooter before me, go through the stage getting a final imprint of the visuals (imprint)
Before I shoot, rehearse one last time in my head - then put the subconscious in control and Execute.
Plan - Imprint - Execute
I tend to expend 3 or 4x the effort on Imprinting than I do on Planning
Great summary! Pretty much exactly what I do when I’m on my game. Last night however...
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10 hours ago, Ross Carter said:
There are very few who aren't always shooting with people better than them on any given day.
Never really thought about it but that is true more often than not.
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I tried an S2 but at the time it just seemed too heavy so I decided to run an SP-01 in both PROD and CO. However, now that I’ve been running my Atlas Titan in LTD I’m thinking the weight of the S2 would be an easier transition.
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7 hours ago, MVPFc said:
Since the Honcho does not have a link or forward lugs there really isn’t any wear spots from the barrel. The slide to frame would get use regardless of caliber so that would be the only part. The good news is that we manufacture all of the parts and are able to keep close tolerances and parallel rails so that the frame and slide fit off of the machine.
Thats good to know. Also good to know the company participated in these forums to provide info straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for that!
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5 hours ago, DKorn said:
I’m assuming you’re talking about the 8 rounds per location/view?
All you have to do to make it legal is to have it available from more than one location or view. You can have more than 8 rounds available from a single location/view as long as you aren’t requiring the shooter to shoot it all from one spot.
Agreed. It just looks like it needs to be shot straight on. So I guess if it’s out in the open that counts for more than one spot.
How much of an angle can they be shot at?
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Really any and all. I don’t think it would be noticeable for the most part. Just sort of curious about it. If one barrel/slide set up gets A LOT more use would it have an effect on the other components?
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I run an Atlas Titan. Boringly reliable. I shot a Honcho set up for Open. Felt really soft and easy to transition due to the same PT evo grip.
I’d like to shoot a honcho set up for LTD so I could compare apples to apples.
Never shot a LimCat at all but I know several competitors that run them in both Open and LTD and I’ve never seen them have a problem.
In theory, it Seems like the Honcho would be an awesome “one and done” gun.
However, I wonder how much “balance” is needed between barrels. In other words, how would it work If I shot 20K rounds in open 38SC configuration, then only 1K in LTD, then bounced back to Open 9Maj and fired a few K rounds. How does the metal mate/wear?
To me there is merit in having division specific guns and possibly backup guns in those specific divisions.
Interesting conversation none the less.
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I too like the idea of electronic “eye” sensors and motors, but in practice they rarely hold up to the abuses of USPSA shooters. Simplistic cables have enough problems themselves. I’m a fan of clamshell targets and knockdowns for their simplicity.
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That is a pretty cool plate rack. It looks like it would be great for an outlaw match. Not quite sure how it would work with rule(s) 1.2.1 though.
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Sweet! Thanks!
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On 3/22/2019 at 6:43 PM, BigEar said:
IPSC Store always carry the 10, what r u talking about...lol
Never heard that. All I seem to find are 8 or 11.5.
Is that a European shop? Do I have to order from over seas?
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Yep. Had opportunities to squad with super squads a few times. Great experience because they were great humans. However, I too Made the mistake of trying to keep up with much higher level shooters. I will echo that the stage planning can also be problematic as well if it is so complex that you forget the plan mid run. Still I like to see what can be done and how far off the pro pace I am. Or sometimes it’s depressing. Ha.
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I’m going to start doing some light calisthenics before matches from now on. I didn’t do that on an intense practice session and I paid for it with my hip flexors for about three-four months.
Didnt help i was about 20 lbs heavier but that’s a different story.
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Great advice. I usually plan on being at a major the day before or that morning if I’m shooting in the afternoon. This way I have a lot more time to try different things.
I realize this is not possible for everyone. So if I get there on the morning of the match where I’m shooting an AM squad, I definitely give myself AT LEAST an extra hour. Oh, and definitely bring a good flashlight for those winter/fall o’dark thirty matches.
Still, I’ll usuall make sure I read and reread the WSB, and the first thing I do is count targets/rounds. Make sure what I see matches the sheet. Hugely important. Ask me how I know.
then ill develop a plan plan based on my division/reloads. I try to keep it simple. If a certain plan will save me .5 seconds but I MAY not remember it as well, I’ll go with a simpler plan. But I’m not a GM so...
also, I try to look at a “start anywhere” Stage from both directions. Usually moving from left to right or uprange to downrange is easier on reloads but sometimes the opposite plan can give you better odds of success.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence!
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That’s awesome info. Thank you!
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