[TS 40 Feeding Issue]

Could be either. I have mags that won’t lock open but feed perfect.

What follower and spring are you using?

[CZ Tactical Sports 40sw magazine doesn't drop free]

I had that happen with one, but only when full. I squeezed it with a padded pliers and never had a problem again. Had the same issue with Glock mags back in the day.

I have both CZC and Springer. Don’t recall which hung up but neither do now.

I prefer CZC because while the Springer are nice, they are a pain in the balls to take off for cleaning at a match or practice.

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

I previously shot 34’s with skateboard tape and I find the Bogies give me better traction and don’t tear my hands up. I still use ProGrip when it’s humid and sweaty but I love the bogies. I also prefer the standard flat side slabs (+.064”) over the palm swells. Never used the Hennings so I can’t compare.

Have you shot 500 rounds in a couple hours with the Bogies? I’m sure they are fine for matches, I’m concerned with heavy practice.

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

Those who have Lok Grips.... I’m wanting to switch to a less aggressive grip because I shoot a lot. I currently use the Henning grips and love them in matches, but shooting 400-500 rounds is hell on my hands. Definitely don’t want Bogies are the other more aggressive grips.

I used to shoot a Glock 35 and my preferred grip was just the stock gen4 texture and use pro grip.

Which Lok Grip would have about the right texture for this?

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

I'm new to TSO and have questions about the factory sights...how wide is the rear notch and does any one know the width and height of the front fiber optic.  I,m thinking of going with a narrower Dawson front fiber 

Thanx

 

I got the .150 tall x .100 wide at the advice of a friend who knows. It is roughly the same height as the stock front sight. I didn’t need to adjust the rear sight any. I like the narrower front sight but the .100 wide is really small. I wished I had got a different on that was a little wider. I had previously used Dawson sights on a Glock that were .135 wide. I have since adapted and like them though. I also got extra green fiber because I really prefer green over red.

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

 
Not heard of any sports that require it.
 
Seems to be personal preference. Mainly, in USPSA Limited, if you run the gun dry you already screwed up bigtime.

I think IDPA requires reload from slide lock, but yeah, never heard of no slide lock required.

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

If you use the thumb rest there is less in your way, to me that's the biggest. The second is there is now nothing internally to interact with the mag or rounds, reducing the chances of a possible jam, mag not dropping or inadvertent slide lock. This is entirely a uspsa Limited gun for me, there is zero reason to have a functioning slide lock lever.
 
Gun set up is very personal, don't take what I do as gospel. Next is getting enough mags and base pads, a different magwell and some grips cut to fit.

That makes sense. Mine is for USPSA too, I just didn’t know what the point was. I’m left handed so the slide stop and thumb rest are equally useless.

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

Pin will not lock the slide open on last shot. Slide stop will.

But what is the advantage of that?

[Tactical Sport Orange technical thread.]

Just got mine and it is the "new" type with the very Shadow 2 like grip/frame.
 
I took off the thumb rest. I removed the slide stop and installed one of the pins. I changed the fiber from red to green. I rotated up the mag release paddle from 3 to 2 o'clock. I replaced the clear buffer with one of the same thin thickness but of the black material. I replaced the installed recoil spring (I think it is the softest of the 3) with a stock Shadow 2 recoil spring.
 
Next will be magwell and mag extensions.

What is the advantage of the pin only and no slide stop? I’m a lefty so I don’t care one way or the other, just curious.

[Glock 34/35 Extraction/Ejection Issues]

Just now, Shorty4087 said:

Which manufacturers are recommended for the conversion barrel?

 

KKM is probably best balance of quality and value. I have a Glockstore that is accurate enough for 3-gun.

[Glock 34/35 Extraction/Ejection Issues]

Get a conversion barrel. It matters. I’ve run 9mm conversion in my 35 and never had this problem. The extractor should also be 9mm to ensure you don’t have this problem. I have gotten away with it at 3gun matches before when I just forgot to swap it out.


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[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

1 minute ago, war_material said:

 

yeah I did this to my 40sw mags.  When i push the follower down it feels much stronger but yeah I can only put 19 in the mag.  I still need to go test it out but I have a feeling they were nose diving because of weaker springs.

 

Oh, gotcha... I misunderstood. 

 

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

3 hours ago, war_material said:

I tried the 33 round magazine xtra power springs from Wolf and cut them to fit 19 rounds with the TTI 140mm basepad.  When I push the follower down it feels much stronger than the springs that came with the basepad.  This might help but I haven't tested it out yet.

 

Thats a 9mm mag though. This problem is pretty specific for 40s&w mags. I've never had a problem of any kind with 9mm and TTI basepads on my G34. Friend has the new +10 on a 31 round body and it works fine on his PCC.

I ordered new springs from TTI before Area 3 and that was probably the most important factor in the rounds not nose diving, but other factors also seemed to show up. After the new springs I could not get 20 rounds in a mag, only 19. Not a big deal though.

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

I was beating my head against the wall trying to figure this out myself. Same issue, using 200g blue bullets.  I took my mags apart and cleaned them and lightly lubed the inside with ballistol and everything ran great for 200~ rounds then it started again, FTF with the nose of the bullet in the mag still. 
 
So switching to a non polymer coated bullet fixed your issue and matching your followers with your mags helped as well?

I have contradicted myself throughout this thread. It’s become sort of a narrative of my learning process with this issue.

I just shot Area 3 (400+ rounds) and did not have this malfunction. I had one get FTF that didn’t go into the chamber but was unrelated to this nose dive in the mag issue.

After battling it mildly off and on all season what I can officially say definitively is:

-Brush out mags if they hit the ground. Always.

-Happens less with copper, but would still happen occasionally. Blue Bullets was NOT primary culprit but could be a contributing factor. I still use them for practice. Did not have this malfunction in practice with Blue bullets the day before the match.

- Smack rounds to back of magazine every 5-10 rounds when loading mags.

-Make sure followers match mag bodies

-OAL did not seem to matter. 1.125, 1.130, 1.135, all lengths would nose dive.

If you do all of these things it will greatly minimize the issue. Again this is only with the TTI mag extensions. I don’t think this particular model was part of the issue. I’m going to try some of the Dawson extensions too and see how they work.

[Marking your own brass]

My rifle brass usually needs a little trim after each firing and resizing. I just trim them all. It’s faster than marking or separating.

If I already processed it myself and it’s being reloaded again it goes in one bucket. If it wasn’t mine or was factory new ammo, those cases go in a different bucket. I will sort headstamps from time to time if I am not loading hoser FMJ ammo.

[Glock trigger upgrades, best bang for your bucks parts?]

I run a Ghost Rocket connector kit in my 34 and 35. You file down a tab on the connector to customize the reset. Makes it much shorter. If you run the light striker spring you may get light primer strikes. My 35 has a Zev striker to remedy that. My 34 didn’t need it. Around $40 for the kit. Zev skelotnized striker is $80.

[Glock grip angle?]

Without trying to create a firestorm on the Glock forum, the angle is why I went to a CZ for CO. I have tried to get used to the way the Glock sits in my hand, and it never feels right. This is not a slam on the firearm in any way, it is purely my opinion on the strange angle. I did purchase a G34 in order to get into CO, but found my old XDm with a Springer Precision rear CO sight felt much better.
 
After test firing a CZ, I found it worked much better for me. BUT, millions of Glock owners are there for a reason, and just like the LE officers I work with,  Glocks beat the competition by about 80 percent over non Glock. It would seem to change the grip angle makes it a pseudo XDm or polymer CZ. I think you would get used to the angle, I personally have just not gotten there.

My first pistol was a Glock. It what I compete with because it’s what I had then upgraded to a 34 and 35. I carry a CZ P-07. Yeah, they’re different. But if you practice with it it’s fine. After shooting a friend’s Shadow 2 I want one but am not looking forward to relearning draws and reloads.


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[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

15 minutes ago, SCTaylor said:

Reading my tea leaves but still have a question. Are you using the longer springs designed for the extensions? Using stock mags, with no issues and the new mag with no issues, leads me to think you need stronger springs in extensions.

 

I used both longer and stock springs and it didn’t really matter. Happened either way. The best fix was using copper bullets. But round nose bullets might help, less surface area? I think the flat nose combined with coating drug on the inside. Flat nose copper just work. I wish the Blue bullets worked. I like them. Still shoot them in 9mm. 

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

13 minutes ago, war_material said:

Good to know! I wonder if there is anything I could do to the magazine to get it running smoother. I wanted to make it to that match, had a bunch of friends there from North Dakota here. Looks like it was a good match!

 

Well I am gonna try and smooth out the inside of a bottom part of the mag maybe that will help? It’s just that I have a bunch of blues that I loaded up. 

 

I still have about 700 Blue bullets left. I’ll use them for practice but not use in matches. Go ahead and experiment see if you get them to work. If you figure something out I’d like to know. 

 

GP Section was a fun match. Very well done.

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

20 hours ago, war_material said:

I used to have this issue with my 35. I use a 24 now and I have had some of the same. Trying a stock recoil spring next time out. Hoping I could stick with blue bullets

 

It was only a problem with longer extended mags. Stock mags were not a problem. I noticed it happened less with a 13 pound spring. Stock spring happened a little more. 15 pound spring had it happen the most.

 

Or get copper bullets and it goes away completely. Shot 300+ rounds of Berry's at Great Plains Sectional last weekend and not one occurence, or malfunction of any kind.

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

Follow up...

It started happening again. I loaded some Berry’s bullets and it hasn’t happened again. I guess I’m not shooting Blue Bullets in my 35 anymore.


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[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

First, thanks for all the help. I seem to have ironed out the problem. The solution was a tad unexpected. Ammo was part of it but not most of the problem... I don’t think.

I loaded up 120 rounds of my same load at 1.135. This did feed perfect in all of my mags.

I bought a new mag (wanted 2 more but only one left) and put the base pad on it with the TTI spring. The new mag fed my old 1.125 ammo perfectly. Ran 2 full mags in my G35 and another 20 rds in my dads G22.

Then the quirky part. One of my mags wasn’t locking the slide mag on empty. This was consistent. On inspection the follower was well below the top and appeared caught on something. That’s when I noticed the follower number on top corner of that mag (where it pushes up on slide catch) was a 9 and not a 10 like others. In a mag body that has the number ending in 04. I had never noticed the number before. I compared it to the mag I just bought. The follower number was 10 and the mag ended in 04. Inside the dimensions were different at the top. The 9 follower in the 04 body worked except would not lock the slide. The 10 follower in a 03 body would choke consistently either 8 or 9 rounds in and continue to nose dive. It was crazy.

Matched all followers and mags and they all worked perfect with either batch of ammo. Then put in TTI springs in the other 3 and they all continued to run flawlessly with either ammo.

I am now confident that my random feed problems appeared and disappeared when I accidentally mid matched the followers and bodies. I’m ordering 3 more new mags and should be good. Will keep seating bullets at 1.135 as well. Thanks again y’all!


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[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

So I tested some things out. Worst mag crapped out 10 rounds in, it was older. This is a photo. Another mag the same age as this one did the same thing but less.

Stock mag worked fine with no base pad. Never a feed issue and I ran two full mags.

Factory ammo also ran the least reliable mag the without problem. Just Remington 180gr UMC.

Two newer mags worked fine, never nose dived with hand loads.

I forgot to bring the longer mag springs that came with the extensions. I will have to wait until tomorrow to test that. I am also going to pick up a couple of new mags and put the extensions on those to see what happens.

So I think I have an ammo and mag problem.

Would switching to a faster Powder like Titegroup help this or make no difference?

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

38 minutes ago, B_RAD said:

You're using load data for Berrys FP off of hodgdons web site. The blue bullet has a longer profile. I think 1.125" could be too short. Your seating the bullet too deep. The Blue is longer so at the same OAL as a shorter bullet, you're seating the base deeper. Might cause over pressure. Probably not but could. 

 

Also, I'd try running everything in a stock gun, if your 35 isn't completely stock. If you still have issues then I'd say it's your ammo. 

 

Are you case gauging your reloads?

 

Yes, it all passes the gauge.

[Glock 35 Feed Problem]

1 minute ago, Southpaw said:

Have you tried it with factory ammo? 

 

I have not. Will try that today too.