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I had Mark do all three of my revolvers. On one of them (686), in addition to normal action work and competition upgrades, he cut the cylinder for moons. The turn around on all three (three separate jobs) was I think about 2 weeks. I live less than an hour away so I drop off and pick up at his shop. The revos might have been finished sooner but since I'm off on Friday's I wait for that day to go get them. He does nice work. You might have to leave a few voice mail messages but he will get back to you. Very nice person.
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Good discussion.
This year I'm trying my hardest to move up to A in OSR steel challenge. I know some might say A no big deal but for me shooting a revolver isn't/hasn't been easy. OK, I'm also dabbling in ISR as I want to shoot USPSA revo on a regular basis next year and need to get better using iron sights.
I'm trying to convince myself that expanding my horizons will also help at least in the enjoyment aspect of things. So, I have a decent stable, a match grade revolver and belt assembly. I also have a G17 and a fairly good (DAA) production holster/belt assembly. And a good supply of brass/bullets/primers. If I decide to add an auto loader in my USPSA program it would make sense for me to shoot production as I have the gear. What may I ask is the pitfalls of shooting production where everyone is minor pf? In revo I will be shooting minor anyway.
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For steel challenge I use 8 moa C-MORE RTS2 on my revolver and Burris FF3 8 moa on my rimfire pistol. I just put a 3 moa on my rimfire rifle as I'm just breaking into that gun and I think the 3 moa is too small for Steel Challenge. And as others have said brightness is important the SCSA. I think you will be ok with the Vortex but get the bigger dot, not the 3 moa Not sure but I think some of the vortex models require removing the sight from the firearm to replace the battery. This is not something you want to do in the middle of a match.
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Sorry to hear this. Stay positive though.
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In OSR I'm at 72 percent SCSA so I need about 5.5 seconds to make A. I'm shooting an 8 stage match this weekend so I plan on making some headway. This week my dry fire will focus on my 3 worse stages based on peak times. Those are Speed Option, Roundabout and 5 to go. I'm also going to put in a lot of time practicing smoke and hope to get it as fast as possible.
So, this week a lot of dryfire and a focus on specific things. My original plan for the year was to make A in both OSR and ISR. In my mind the most urgent is OSR I would like that as soon as possible and absolutely before the end of August. Once I make A in OSR then I will put in the more time with ISR. But in OSR I want to be able to shoot in the low 130s in an 8 stage match by September. That is the priority.
OK. Two things. First, I've decided that I want to achieve Master in OSR sometime next year. Second is I want to shoot both USPSA Revo and ICORE Limited next year. This is why I'm shooting ISR this year, if it were not for that I would add a rimfire gun to my Steel Challenge game. ISR is basically to get me using iron sights. Once I achieve A in OSR I'm going to start a rage diary. I have to say overall I'm pleased on my progress. For about 2 years I fiddled around and made very little progress. I started dry fire last year and it helped but more seriousness business this year which is have a positive effect and just makes the day more enjoyable.
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May we have an update my friend?
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It's going to make a huge difference. I think the only place where a 6 shooter is even fun is ID*A (if you have a 4" barrel and can tolerate the pain) and ICORE Classic/Limited 6. Assuming that you keep your 6 shooter and just add an 8 shot you have enough hardware to be a full time cowboy!
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I think, but not absolutely certain, that by the time you get a new 929 competition ready you will have $1500.00 to $1700.00 more or less into the gun so what is another couple hundred dollars for 9mm moon clips? Assuming you want to use your short colts to avoid having to buy all new moons?
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Moon clips make extracting the empties in a revolver using rimless cartridges a lot easier. Come to think of it, loading is easier also.
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On 7/2/2018 at 2:39 PM, Justin M said:
..........................The TRR8 trigger guard seems much wider than the stainless N frames (such as 929, 627, or 625). I have a separate insert set up just for the TRR8. I don't see the need for the support rod when it's properly fit. There's minimal play even with a comically long gun like the 929...…………………
Lots to agree with here^^^^
I was going to post a similar message but while I have been using a Race Master/929 combo for 2 years I still don't feel comfortable making recommendations to others, still a piker I am. I don't use the muzzle support either but always without exception flip the locking lever to make sure the gun is secure in the holster before letting go. Side note, if you forget to flip the lever back down before drawing be advised a super atomic weggie is in your immediate future, LOL! I didn't trim the insert but it took a while to get the holster to work the way I wanted. I have two 929s, one of them fits slightly better into the holster than the other, why I don't know. A spray of silicone one in a while helps but attracts dirt. Check the cap screws for tightness once in a while, I carry spare screws in my range bag, take a guess why?
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Adam, welcome from PA.
Not knowing what your skills and/or interests are it is hard to say but in my opinion it is difficult to be good at USPSA, 3-Gun, and Steel Challenge without having a lot of previous experience or a lot of time to devote to learning the skills. For me (and my wife of 33 years) our kids are on their own, I have some spare time and desire to achieve at least a smidgeon of success and our incomes are fairly decent. I shoot 2 of the 3 you mention but I run as far as I can from 3 gun as there is only so much time and money available. Outside of the time, for 3 gun getting a good shotgun is a stumbling point then setting aside additional time to train. But 3 gun for me might be another one of the competitions for you. My personal feeling is get good a one then move to the next and so on, having the tackle is part of the problem but there is more to it than just that. Hopefully you already handload your own ammo. If not that is another thing that will cost money and take up time.
Nice to have you onboard Adam.
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On 6/12/2018 at 2:06 PM, UpYoursPal said:
Couldn't think of a section to put this in, so it's here in the BEginners forum
I'm not looking for a flashy jersey with all sorts of logos and everything on it. I really just want to get a joke jersey made with something like "PROUD D CLASS SHOOTER" on it. Every site I've checked out wants a bunch of money for even a limited run of jerseys, but I just want a one-off thing as a joke.
Anyone have a good source?
I was thinking on mine, on the back, under the collar, where the last name usually goes, putting literally <your name here>
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Would need a production legal holster and moon clip holders?
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On 6/20/2018 at 8:40 PM, shoots100 said:
I tested a C-more with an 8 moa dot and liked that size for steel plate shooting.
I'm in the process of setting up a 617 for RFPO.
As my depleted 2018 shooting funds didn't allow for a C-more purchase, I did find a good price for a new Fast Fire 3.
I also ordered a raptor engineering mount after reading up on them from past posts here, and will hopefully have it set up next week.
SJC
I have both a c-more RTS2 (8 moa) on my open revo and a FF3 (8 moa) on my open rimfire and like them both. The c-more is a brighter color of red and a slightly more defined dot but other than that it will be a long time before I'm outshooting the potential of either sight. I use them both for steel.
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I think in ICORE if you are classified in more than 1 gun there cannot be more than 1 classification letter from best to worse. When I move up in open I get an automatic promotion in classic, a division that I truly suck in.
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At least in my experience which is limited, I have to dry fire practice at least 3 days/week and even then some days I pick up the dot very fast and other days quite a bit slower. Not sure if there is a correlation between success and doing everything correct but it seems to me that an important component of effortless dot acquisition demands that all of the fundamentals be correct. In particular a good solid and proper grip coupled with a positive attitude are helpful in fast accurate draws on a distant target. I think it took me about a month of regular dry fire to pick up the dot fairly quickly and consistently, even at my low level of performance continued practice is required to keep the skill in check.
So I would say regular honest practice and attention to details are the key. I also really don't think there is a big difference between the theory of finding a dot vs. finding the proper sight picture using irons quickly. Both require a lot of practice. The more you do it the less time you spend thinking about exactly what you need to do, instead you just simply do it. Don't misunderstand me shooting irons is more difficult but both require practice, a lot of practice if you want to excel and improve. The problem is that dry fire, while absolutely necessary, is very boring.
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Looks like you have it correct Robert. When you shoot Outer Limits and Speed option those peak times will be added to your classification record. Your percentage may go down but your classification will stay the same. An argument could be made that those two stages are the most difficult, especially outer limits. My advice would be to practice moving (dry fire) from the end box to the center at the minimum so that you have an idea how to do it before you see it for the first time, assuming it is in a match. As you know outer limits and speed option have targets out at 105 feet. You are doing well.
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jkrispies, I am very sorry to hear about your situation. I hope you recover fast and fully.
I say this as an individual that has 2 plates, 14 screws and 3 pins in my left lower leg (tib/fib).
I think really the only thing you can do is weak hand exercises. If only 6 weeks before you can start to use your hands that isn't too bad, I was 15 weeks from break to cast removal and then prolly 3 more months with fracture boots, then splints. Took many months for the muscles to regain size and strength. I understand your desire to not let your skills decline. Just don't take any unnecessary risks.
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I was going to get 2000 today and some more next week but when I got to the store decided to get a case of 5000. So that's 10,000 in the past week.
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I thought I was in good shape Federal SPP wise, in January 2017 I had 21,000 on hand. Then nothing.
I finally picked up 5000 of them last week. Getting another 2000 tomorrow at an LGS. I was in the beginning of panic because I hadn't seen any for sale at the same time I had the money to spend. Finally last week both conditions collided. I want to get the 2000 tomorrow (6/1/18) then 2000 the following week and then 2000 once a month hopefully going forward. I thought having 20k on the shelf was a good hedge against shortages but I was down to 6000 and starting to worry.
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Your revolver will take over your life and leave you centless.
Question: Shooting USPSA or ICORE?
Answer: Sure, why not?
No other words of wisdom. Except try steel challenge if it is available. And dry fire as it takes some time to get the DA trigger under control. Personally I would make getting action work done a priority. It might seem like a lot of money but you already have a gun that is worthy of the time/expense and you handload. Outside of production the start up cost prolly isn't any worse than Limited or Open Auto. At least that is what I keep telling myself.
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1 hour ago, Beef15 said:
Check pawls for damage, go through adjustment procedure again, very small changes on the screw make bit changes in indexing.
This bears repeating.
Most if not all of the problems with the press (once the pawls and the primer shuttle/feed tube assy are adjusted) can be traced back to the shell plate coming lose.
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9 hours ago, mrvip27 said:
I want to get started in USPSA. Its pretty active in my small town/city. (Lake Havasu AZ)
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Any help? Ideas? What would you do?
PS. I still want a Q5 regardless
Thanks!
What I would do, since you are asking, is what everyone else is suggesting. Use what you have and then figure out just exactly where you fit in. As far as improving your marksmanship skills I'm fairly confident in saying that if you stick with it and if you practice/dry fire, your skills will improve regardless of the division you shoot. In production class everyone has to reload, everyone shoots minor pf and everyone has a 10 shot magazine capacity. So even keel as far as that goes.
Which reminds me. You will need/want at least 6 magazines to start and probably at least 5 magazine pouches for your belt, I have 6 on mine and I only dabble in production (with a Glock 17 but I'm a piker). 50 or so rounds of ammo weighs a pound or so making it handy to have a competition belt. A sturdy belt, a reasonably good production holster and 6 mag pouches is going to cost somewhere around $300.00 ---a debatable cost but you get the idea. This of course presents to you a quandary because even if you use what you have you will still probably need to spend some money or borrow some tackle. I managed to survive my first few matches using my G17 and three (3) el-cheapo Uncle Mikes double mag pouches and a leather carry belt. I have since discovered that I'm more of a Steel Challenge /Revolver/ICORE kind of guy so glad I didn't full bore into USPSA limited or open but I do have at this point a fairly nice production belt set-up maybe some day I will get it out and use it.
Also put in the back of your mind and regardless of what kind of gun or division you shoot that for future reference the you will probably see a need to park a progressive reloading press and numerous associated tools on your work bench. Playing the game implies sending a considerable amount of lead down range even if it's 9mm.
Money does by the way and contrary to popular folk proverbs buys happiness. Having said all this, it is a fun activity.
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On 5/17/2018 at 8:17 PM, xtian999 said:
join“Firearm hobbies are not inexpensive.” Aho! True that. Thank you for that nice post, Firewood. Thinking of buying a book or two first, then maybe sitting in on a buddy’s reloading session, then asking Santa for a small workbench setup. Or watching Craigslist for same.
Going to keep shooting 9mm and 223 for 3-gun, .308 and .45 for heavy metal. 300 blk for hunting, 12 ga. for all three.
Good idea getting a book. There are two or three basic "kinds" of books. One is the "How To" variety, another is the "Load Data" manual. Then there are variations of the same.
Most Load Data manuals have a section, generally in the front, that go over the basic How To that the newcomer needs to know. If you decide to join the ranks of handloaderdumb then you will need several load manuals anyway so if your procure one it will not go to waste. My personal collection of books on the subject numbers about 75 books. I say this to give you an idea of my attitude towards these things. My advice is get a used manual off Amazon. Everyone has their favorite manual and most are good but in my opinion get the Hornady Manual then the Lyman. Used is the way to go but I've bought new on sale at (believe it or not ) WalMart.
Of course there are some awful youtubes out there but a lot of good vids also. I wouldn't suggest using loads from anything other than published sources but if you watch a few youtubes it will give you a great idea of what you are getting into.
I had been wanting to start handloading for many years, my Dad reloaded when I was a kid and I have some of his stuff but not enough to get going without putting some money on the counter. We (my better half) and me have two kids and of course that makes it difficult time and money wise to spend shooting and reloading. Finally when my youngest got into high school and my wife started making more money than me I had run out of excuses so a while back I started shooting more and getting more guns.
Now my youngest is out of college (and making some bux of her own), I have more time and so I've been handloading about 6 years now. When I started I did what your are thinking about, I asked Santa for the stuff I needed. Santa knew just exactly what I wanted! I didn't have the foresight to ask enough questions or find someone to show me what they do or use so I think I can say I made a few mistakes along the way. I thought, for example, that a bench is a bench. If you are planning on making 1000 rounds per month even 500 with a progressive your bench needs to put the press and associated gizmos in just the right place. The bench needs to be rock solid and at the correct height.
As far as my actual bench is concerned, I have a small (8' long) but nice bench. I have found that while some like to sit when they work, I prefer to stand. My bench is about 4" too low for handloading perfection so next week I'm going to make new legs and reconfigure things using my existing bench top. While I'm at it I will make a few changes and repaint everything and add new lighting and shelving. To improve on an existing and fully functional bench to make it better will cost me about $200.00 and eat up a long weekend of my time.
So in addition to making hardware buying decisions it is wise to give some time planning on where you will do the work and store the materials you will be buying to support the effort.
There are many ways to skin a cat as they say. Same with handloading ammo. The main thing is good safety habits and good record keeping. What works for me may not work for you. Most handloaders that have a passion for quality ammo are in a constant search for improvement. Not just loads and components but their work flow and procedures as well as an efficient workspace. I laugh at myself when I look at pictures of my first handloading bench. I could have stored everything in a cardboard box. Today I take up 1/4 of a two car garage.
ON EDIT: I see you now have the Lyman book. Good choice! But disregard the thing about measuring and trimming handgun brass.
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3 weeks since my last post. I have picked up 2 seconds in Steel Challenge OSR so I'm at 73%. I have a little contest with another shooter that I compete with on a regular basis to see which one of us makes A first. My competition has a slight advantage over me in that She needs 2.5 seconds while I need 3.6 seconds.
Sunday 8/5/18 I have a chance to close the gap, I'm shooting a 6 stage SCSA match. Between now and then I'm putting top priority in dry fire Showdown, The Pendulum and Roundabout. Secondary concern is Speed Option which remains my worse stage and thus contains the most potential for picking up my scores. However that stage is not in this weeks match but will be in the following week (week of 8/6/18). As of today I have 3 SCSA matches on the docket for August.